Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
143 registered (ando, Auditor, accordeur, aymeric106, agraffe, anamnesis, 37 invisible), 1332 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#492922 - 11/09/07 10:12 PM my performances - opinions? suggestions?
skryabin088 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/08/07
Posts: 3
Loc: Ohio, USA
Beethoven op.111 Sonata

Rachmaninoff B Minor Prelude

Prokofiev Satanic Apparition

any thoughts?

Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items
#492923 - 11/09/07 10:13 PM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
skryabin088 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/08/07
Posts: 3
Loc: Ohio, USA

#492924 - 11/10/07 12:16 AM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
gabytu Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 1522
Loc: Portland, Or.
Absolutely beautiful, sensitive playing. You have a marvelous technique. I particularly enjoyed your interpretation of the Rachmaninoff Prelude.

Thanks for sharing. Gaby Tu

#492925 - 11/11/07 09:28 PM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
skryabin088 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/08/07
Posts: 3
Loc: Ohio, USA
thanks =)

#492926 - 11/12/07 05:14 AM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
Ferdinand Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/23/07
Posts: 954
Loc: California
You've attained a high degree of mastery in the Beethoven opus 111. It's very impressive. I have a couple of suggestions, but keep in mind this is from one who can't actually play the sonata.

The rhythm in the first 4 bars could be smoothed out a bit. Beat 3 of bars 2 and 4 sound rather late (naturally there must be some delay for the arpeggios, but a listener should still hear the quarter note pulse.) So if you could give less time to the 2nd beats of bars 3 and 4, and instead add a tiny bit more time to beat 4 of bar 1, that would allow the music to breathe more naturally. As it is, the trill in bar 1 sounds a bit cramped, and I think a slight delay in getting across the bar line could be permitted.

In bar 19 (first one after the double-bar) I'd like to hear the rests given their full value. You need to establish the tempo here, and if it's not exact the listener won't get his bearings.

Bar 35 has "a tempo" (after "poco ritenente" in the preceding bar) on the 3rd beat, at least in my edition. It sounds like you reach the original tempo on beat 2. I think it is more dramatic to have abrupt a tempo on beat 3.

These are minor quibbles about a performance that is excellent overall. Thanks for sharing it.

#492927 - 11/12/07 07:20 AM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
troglodyte Offline
Full Member

Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 259
Loc: Uppsala, Sweden
op 111: very polished, nice flow, and the lyrical parts come out fine. You clearly have the necessary technique. Yet somehow I was a bit disappointed.

Now, this is a personal opinion, and you should take it for what it is, but the disappointment is that someone of your abilities could not make a more distinct interpretation or convey (to me at least) what your feelings are in this piece. Usually, in op 111 I hear rage, rebellion, frustration, terror, elation, in a combination that makes me sweat. In your performance I heard none of that. It sort of takes the main point away . Have you decided exactly what you want to say with the piece?

#492928 - 11/12/07 08:28 AM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
Piano*Dad Online   content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/12/05
Posts: 10726
Loc: Williamsburg, VA
I'm not going to go into interpretive issues. I have not played these pieces, and you're clearly very accomplished.

One thing I will mention is posture. I mention it because my own son has some issues with posture. The very beginning of the Prokofiev piece gives a clear example of what to worry about. You often hunch up your shoulders for emphasis and to add emotional depth. Alas, lifting your shoulders and jutting your head forward and down doesn't do anything positive to the playing, and the lifted shoulders adds unhelpful tension. In the long run, these posture issues may leave you more prone to injury as well.

At a recent master class at Virginia Commnwealth University, professor Dmitri Shteinberg worked with my son on exactly those issues. The arguments I just gave are actually his, not mine.

#492929 - 11/12/07 01:19 PM Re: my performances - opinions? suggestions?
Brooklyn Pianist Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/11/07
Posts: 84
Loc: Brooklyn
The opus 4 no 4 is the only one I've played and I just have a few comments. You can take these or leave them, your voicing is awesome and you pull off the "creepiness" very well.

First, there's two figures (and I'm sure you're very familiar with them) my score doesn't have measure #s, but the figuure with the triplet followed by the quintuplet, and the figure starting 4 measures later. They're clean, but they may be taxing you because you are omitting the accents on the c-c octave the first time and the repeated chord the 2nd time. Those need hard accents and they should sound like the inevetible conclusion of the ascending figures.

Second, I think you can be a little more flexible with your tempo. One spot in particular where I think you should add a noticeable pause is after the glissandos toward the end of the piece. You build up a ton of sound, which is the point of the figure. When I played it, I paused a second after the 2nd glissando to allow the sound to dissipate before moving on to ending section which starts considerably softer.

My final suggestion, purely optional, is to experiment with the tempo a little bit. Personally, I play it a hair slower. It allows me to create a wider dynamic range. Your fffs sound a little weak to me. It could be the recording equipment but it could also be the tempo limiting your attack.

Overall though, that's a finely thought out and executed interpretation. It's such a fun piece to play and hear.
Currently Studying:
Gottschalk - Souvenir de Porto Rico
Bolcom - Raggin' Rudi
Friedman/Bach - Sheep May Safely Graze
Beethoven - Les Adieux


Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
What's Hot!!
Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano!
aka, why you should be nice to your tuner.
Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

Piano Classified Ads
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
Hammond A100 for Sale!
(Think B3)
Hammond A100 for sale!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad 125)
Sweetwater $55,000 Giveaway
Sweetwater $55,000 Mic Locker Giveaway
Mason & Hamlin Piano Factory Tours
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Kitty on the Keys by Frank Mills Sheet Music
by shalomjj
05/27/16 04:20 PM
Nikolai Kapustin - 'easier' pieces
by BobTB
05/27/16 03:43 PM
Bouncing w/Bud - Sonny Rollins transcription
by indigo_dave
05/27/16 03:19 PM
I want to learn piano... But I can't...
by Jordan Vlachos
05/27/16 02:37 PM
Soft pedal problem after tuning.
by strawberry fields
05/27/16 02:03 PM
Forum Stats
83,784 Registered Members
44 Forums
172,966 Topics
2,528,311 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission