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#501399 - 04/16/05 02:07 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Uh oh, he ended the Rhapsody with a wrong note, not good for him.
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#501400 - 04/16/05 02:13 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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yea, he did..

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#501401 - 04/16/05 02:16 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
Stan D Offline
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I just started watching this afternoon. Would be great to have an English translation of the commentary after the performances.

Looked back through the earlier posts and found a link to the English version.

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#501402 - 04/16/05 02:24 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Wow Anton's cadenza really resembles the 1st concerto...
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#501403 - 04/16/05 02:25 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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GReat ending! He actually hopped off the bench!

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#501404 - 04/16/05 02:25 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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LOOK AT THAT APPLAUSE, Anton won it, no doubt. THE POWER OF THE RED BEARD!!!
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#501405 - 04/16/05 02:26 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff135:
LOOK AT THAT APPLAUSE, Anton won it, no doubt. THE POWER OF THE RED BEARD!!! [/b]
I completely agree! \:\)

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#501406 - 04/16/05 02:27 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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The cadenza .. simply took my breath away.

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#501407 - 04/16/05 02:27 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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That was amazing

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#501408 - 04/16/05 02:32 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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i think Salnikov is the best, and his cadenza sounds pretty operatic.

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#501409 - 04/16/05 02:34 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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I heard the rhapsodies .. my opinions

First: Technique
no.1: weaker than the other two
2nd: better but what annoys that he missed the last chord
3rd: as no.2 or better but with more wrong notes

Second: Music
i liked no.2 then no.1 then no.3 (no.3 started some sections fast then slows then fast again ... that was bad)

Third: Cadenza
1st: did not like it
2nd: the best musically
3rd: the best 'virtuosically' with the first part reminding me of the ocean etude


My favourite version: No.2 , the chinese guy

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#501410 - 04/16/05 02:37 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
Bassio Offline
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The guy with the beard (is he anton u are talking about?) has certainly the most powerful cadenza

i agree with u

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#501411 - 04/16/05 02:46 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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they played in this order:

1 - Christiaan Kuyvenhoven
2 - Yingdi Sun
3 - Anton Salnikov

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#501412 - 04/16/05 02:46 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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I'm inclined to think Sun's performance was the best, musically and technically, in spite of that final chord. Salnikov would easily win in a lookalike competition, though. \:\)


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#501413 - 04/16/05 02:55 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Yea, despite the nice ending to Salnikov's rhapsody, the middle section was a bit disorganized ... and I agree, the tempo was uneven through Salnikov's performance. But, oh, the finish! Thank God for the finish.

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#501414 - 04/16/05 03:18 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Sun wins it. Deservedly, IMO. \:\)


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#501415 - 04/16/05 03:21 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
Mikester Offline
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I preferred Anton's performances, but, congratulations to all the finalists and to Sun Yundi!

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#501416 - 04/16/05 03:30 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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I also enjoyed Anton Salnikov's performences more, but they all did great so I can't complain.

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#501417 - 04/16/05 03:31 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Anybody know if they're gonna make these finals available online?
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#501418 - 04/16/05 04:58 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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You guys had me thinking Yundi Li won the last one, but he was actually third in the second to last competition link

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#501419 - 04/17/05 03:20 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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The comp was way too political. Salnikov should've won it, Kuyvenhoven was good too. Sun IMO was just playing the notes, there was no point to his playing, like taking a book, and ripping out random pages, so you dont understand whats happening. My favourite contestant was Gulyak, who deserved to go further.

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#501420 - 04/17/05 05:20 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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C'mon Max, do you really have a reason for calling the competition "political"? You're accusing the judges of acting in accordance with their own power interests, rather than awarding the prize to the pianist they preferred. That's a serious charge, often made by contestants who don't like the results.

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#501421 - 04/17/05 07:07 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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I think Salnikov has a little bit of Cziffra in him. He's an entertainer, but oftentimes this does not translate to pleasing the jury. He could do fine in his career. Yundi placed 3rd in the '99 competition, look at where he is now \:\)

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#501422 - 04/17/05 09:10 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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I dunno, I really did not enjoy Kuyvenhoven's performance of either the concerto or the Hungarian Rhapsody too much. But note that he is from the Netherlands. Just a thought.
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#501423 - 04/17/05 09:37 PM Re: Liszt Competition live on the web
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Salinkov was probably the most musically interesting of the finalists, and had the best cadenza, but was not as good technically as Sun.

One thing I noticed though--Salinkov only missed notes in flourishes and very difficult passages, where we'd expect anybody to miss some .
Sun nailed those parts--double tempo, perfectly even, and crystal clear--but missed the really important notes, like the last note of the rhapsodie.

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