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#509686 - 07/26/08 11:33 AM New Piece
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Hey guys,
im looking for a pice to learn thats not too long but gand.
so far i only have one candidate. Horowitz's carmen variations.
any other recommendations?

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#509687 - 07/26/08 11:48 AM Re: New Piece
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Any of the Chopin etudes aren't too long but are very grand.

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#509688 - 07/26/08 12:27 PM Re: New Piece
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actually i just finished a chopin etude and i want to branch out a little.
but thanks anyways

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#509689 - 07/26/08 01:28 PM Re: New Piece
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What is "not too long"? What is "grand?"

Can you give some idea of what pieces might fall into this category from your point of view, as these terms are relative and somewhat subjective.

The C-sharp minor Op. 26 Polonaise of Chopin is not long, compared to others, and it certainly has a "grand" sense to it. Some might think that the A major Polonaise, Op. 40 would also fit those criteria.

What about the Brahms Intermezzo, Op 118, No 1; it is short and certainly has a grand sweep to it? Or Brahms' G minor Ballade, Op 118, No 3?
The Rhapsodies of Brahms, all of them, are "grand"; are they too long?

The Rachmaninoff B-flat major Prelude, Op 23, No 2 is certainly very grand, and not long.

One could go on, but without some idea of what you are really looking for and what your level of playing is, this could just be a guessing game.

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#509690 - 07/26/08 02:52 PM Re: New Piece
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I'll put another vote in for Brahms G minor Ballade op 118 no 3. Definitely grand
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#509691 - 07/26/08 03:52 PM Re: New Piece
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#509692 - 07/26/08 03:54 PM Re: New Piece
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when i say not too long, i mean, anywhere within 4-15 pages.
when i say grand i mean, chopin's ballade n.1
i like the brahms intermezzo

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#509693 - 07/26/08 03:56 PM Re: New Piece
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also, i would say my level is advanced

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#509694 - 07/26/08 05:30 PM Re: New Piece
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BruceD's suggestion of Rachmaninoff's 23/2 is good I think. It certainly isn't long (Prelude!) certainly is grand.

You say "advanced", is that "advanced" enough to tackle this piece?

It is extremely difficult!

I wish I'd be able to tackle it (but it is, admittedly, too difficult methinks).


If you're up for it (ask your teacher) then I'd (or "you should") go for this one, I believe.
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#509695 - 07/27/08 09:48 AM Re: New Piece
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thanks man.
i think ill go for it

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#509696 - 07/27/08 10:20 AM Re: New Piece
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Grand, in a more brilliant and subtle way, is Ive's Concord Sonata Movement 3 (The Alcotts). What a masterful buildup, and what a magnificant ending! The final page of this piece is one of the most 'light-filled' and grand moments in music I can think of.

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#509697 - 07/27/08 07:46 PM Re: New Piece
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Good luck then.
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#509698 - 07/27/08 08:38 PM Re: New Piece
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