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#518160 - 12/04/08 05:57 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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#518161 - 12/04/08 06:06 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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#518162 - 12/04/08 06:10 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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 Quote:
Originally posted by mrenaud:
My Top 5:

Pierre-Laurent Aimard
Maurizio Pollini
Sergej Prokofiev
Bernd Glemser
Frederic Rzewski [/b]
I completely forgot about Bernd Glemser. His Rachmaninov concertos are my favourite.

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#518163 - 12/04/08 06:12 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Originally posted by Ridicolosamente:
And I must add, it ABSOLUTELY tickles me that Kissin only has 1 vote, and Mr. Lang has none.

\:\)
[/b]
Very inappropriate as a response towards Kissin(and even LL) in my opinion. You have every right not to like him, but acting as if he is in the same class as LL or even worthy of your ridicule is way off base. I personally dislike LL but would never say it "absolutely tickles me" that he has no vote.

There have been 100's of very great pianists not yet mentioned at all yet or given just a few votes. Do you really think that a poll of 20 or even 100 PW members has so much meaning?

Since the age of 12 Kissin has been playing to sold out houses around the world and unlike LL has gotten many(if not unanimous)rave critical reviews for both his recordings and concerts.

Just look at his YouTube recording of the Chopin concerti at age 12.

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#518164 - 12/04/08 06:21 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Vladimir Horowitz
Yundi Li
Martha Argerich
Lang lang
Artur Rubinstein

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#518165 - 12/04/08 06:41 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Nikolai Lugansky
Martha Argerich
Lang Lang
Wen Yu Shen
Horowitz (Don't shoot \:\) )

There are plenty more.
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#518166 - 12/04/08 06:46 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Kissin
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#518167 - 12/04/08 06:55 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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hello all, i realize this is a strange place to introduce myself to the 'pianist' side of the forum. i've been a member of the 'piano' side for a little over a year now and am just branching out.

here are my top 5:
Andras Schiff
Martha Argerich
Artur Rubinstein
Vladimir Horowitz
Artur Schnabel

 Quote:
Originally posted by Ridicolosamente:
And I must add, it ABSOLUTELY tickles me that Kissin only has 1 vote, and Mr. Lang has none.

\:\)

Daniel [/b]
of course after you mentioned he-who-must-not-be-named, two people listed him...hmph!
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#518168 - 12/04/08 08:04 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Rachmaninoff
Horowitz
Brendel
Gould
Perahia

hmm .. there are pretty interesting lists!! like Koji's.

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#518169 - 12/04/08 08:43 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Jon Kimura Parker
Garrick Ohlsson
S. Richter
S. Hough
J. O'Conor

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#518170 - 12/04/08 09:19 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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horowitz
rachmaninoff
rubinstein
yundi li
arrau

What!?!? That kastle guy hasn't gotten a single vote?

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#518171 - 12/04/08 09:40 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Thanks to everybody who's contributed so far. I skipped over the one or two who didn't follow, and presumably, didn't read the guidelines in the OP. More updates will come as people post, but probably less frequently, maybe once a day or once every few days. Thanks again to everyone for your input.

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#518172 - 12/04/08 10:11 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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 Quote:
Originally posted by beginningpianist:
horowitz
rachmaninoff
rubinstein
yundi li
arrau

What!?!? That kastle guy hasn't gotten a single vote? [/b]
That's because he is too good to be on a list. He would take up all 5 spots and leave room only for Nancarrow's custom built player piano \:\)

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#518173 - 12/04/08 11:35 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Hi Bluemarocks--

It looks like Mitsuko Uchida was listed by two people (me, of course, or I wouldn't have noticed it, and one other), but you have her down twice for one vote.

You have had a great idea here, and I am so glad you have taken this task on. I am searching out many of these names on Youtube and Amazon to hear their work. Keeping the list to five was very hard!

Nancy
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#518174 - 12/04/08 11:43 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Ronald Brautigam
Garrick Ohlsson
Christian Zacharias
Alexander Ardakov
Martha Argerich

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#518175 - 12/05/08 12:10 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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 Quote:
Originally posted by pianoloverus:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Ridicolosamente:
And I must add, it ABSOLUTELY tickles me that Kissin only has 1 vote, and Mr. Lang has none.

\:\)
[/b]
Very inappropriate as a response towards Kissin(and even LL) in my opinion. You have every right not to like him, but acting as if he is in the same class as LL or even worthy of your ridicule is way off base. I personally dislike LL but would never say it "absolutely tickles me" that he has no vote.

There have been 100's of very great pianists not yet mentioned at all yet or given just a few votes. Do you really think that a poll of 20 or even 100 PW members has so much meaning?

Since the age of 12 Kissin has been playing to sold out houses around the world and unlike LL has gotten many(if not unanimous)rave critical reviews for both his recordings and concerts.

Just look at his YouTube recording of the Chopin concerti at age 12. [/b]
Just to set the record straight, I am indeed a fan of both. After Ms. Lisitsa, Kissin is the professional pianist I've seen perform most, and I'll very likely keep attending his concerts when opportunities arise.

I find it very humorous because I made a relevant comment about Kissin a few weeks ago. He embodies world class musicianship, artistry, and fame, but at the same time, doesn't seem to be anyone's "favorite" pianist. This isn't a scientific poll, but its results have some implications I believe.

That's all I meant. ;\)
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#518176 - 12/05/08 02:24 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Out of dozens of my favorite pianists, here's a semi-random five:

Richter, Sviatoslav
Mathis, James
Sofronitsky, Vladimir
Brendel, Alfred
Francois, Samson

But I have to say, five is not even close to being representative of my favorites. A selection of fifty might have been better for capturing it. Maybe I just hate trying to rank stuff I love...

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#518177 - 12/05/08 03:32 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Well, Kissin's not even 40 ... i think that may have something to do with him not being on many people's lists. It is a "preferred" , not "best" list. I'm sure if this poll was made in 40 years time, Kissin would get a lot more votes ...

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#518178 - 12/05/08 07:17 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Kapell
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#518179 - 12/05/08 10:05 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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For what it's worth,in a fairly recent edition of BBC Music magazine dedicated to the piano, an article featured many of the luminaries of today such as Kissin,Argerich, Askenazy, Kovacevich, Barenboim etc who were asked to speak about the great pianistical influences in their artistic careers. Richter was mentioned most frequently followed by Horowitz.
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#518180 - 12/05/08 10:57 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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 Quote:
Originally posted by izaldu:
I'm sure if this poll was made in 40 years time, Kissin would get a lot more votes ...
Possibly. I've seen Kissin on a number of occasions, and own a fair amount of his CDs. Almost always, I have prefered his recordings to his live performances. Kissin just seems better behaved in the studio, and indeed, he has given us some very fine recordings- ones that will certainly pass the test of time.

For now I've retired from attending any live Kissin concerts. At the last one he battered the poor Chopin Ballades in cold blood (each succeeding one was faster and louder)... even the generous selection of encores couldn't make up for what I thought was incredibly insensitive piano playing. I left the concert very disillusioned, and more than ready for a few pints...
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#518181 - 12/05/08 11:04 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Well i really enjoyed my first Kissin concert last november. I liked the Prokofiev better than the Chopin. I think he's hitting London in June 09 at the Barbican.
Which of his recordings would you advice?

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#518182 - 12/05/08 11:41 AM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Originally posted by izaldu:
Which of his recordings would you advice?
I think Kissin is currently the foremost exponent of the Prokofiev 6th, so definitely try to get that one. Also -and this recording was not unanimously praised- I just loved Kissin's recording of the Brahms F minor Sonata, coupled with some deliciously marinated-in-gulyas Hungarian Dances.

For once, here is this sonata played with all the passion and angst of a young man. Not since Katchen had I heard such potency! Others will no doubt prefer the Arrau school of treating early Brahms as if the music were written after the Clarinet Quintet, the Four Serious Songs and the Op. 118 piano pieces.
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#518183 - 12/05/08 01:08 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Kissin also has a recording with Schumann's Op 17, and 5 of Liszt's Trascendental Etudes, no 12, 11, 10, 5, 8, that I think is very good.

I think the Schumann is excellent and very sensitively played, and the Db Liszt etude is the recording to which I measure all other performances of the etude, really doesn't get any better than that in my opinion.
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#518184 - 12/05/08 03:02 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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How is it that I have never heard of this Martha Argerich anywhere except in these forums?

Has she been performing for very long? If so, was there a dramatic breakthrough point for her like Andre Watts substituting for an ailing Glenn Gould at the last minute?

Any competition medals to her credit? Composers she has an affinity for?

Incidentally, though he didn't make my top 5 I'm glad to see Richter high up on the list.
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#518185 - 12/05/08 03:58 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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She's more active in Europe and she's canceled a lot of her concerts in the US.

And while she's recorded a lot, her reputation is based on only a few recordings: her debut recital, the Amsterdam Recital from 1978, the Rachmaninoff 3rd, Prokofiev 3rd, and Tchaikovsky 1st concerti, and the Schumann album (Kinderszenen and Kreisleriana.)

Oddly enough, as much as people talk about her on the forums, I can't remember anyone ever mentioning the work she's done with Kremer, Maisky, or Friere. Nobody seems to talk about her Chopin, Bach, or Bartok recordings either. (Her 2nd Partita is wonderful!)

As "global" as the world is, we are still divided by an ocean. Many Europeans are unaware of Copland's piano music or people like Jon Kimura Parker, who mostly concertizes in the states and Canada.

(And Americans are unaware of some excellent European pianists like Dubrovka Tomsic, Elisabeth Leonskaya, John Lill, or Idil Biret.)

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How is it that I have never heard of this Martha Argerich anywhere except in these forums?[/b]
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#518186 - 12/05/08 04:14 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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I don't know why you have that impression, Kreisler. She is as famous for her interpretation of Chopin and Bach as she is for the recordings you mentioned. She is also obviously a leader in piano duo performances; in fact she gets criticized for this often.
I was surprised she had so many fans on this forum (eg the Ranking thread). I think she is rather under-rated.

soundboard, google or even better, You Tube the lady.. You will be hooked..

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#518187 - 12/05/08 04:33 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Originally posted by Kreisler:
She's more active in Europe and she's canceled a lot of her concerts in the US.
Well she cancels in Europe too. But the concerts she does play are always reviewed in major papers, often as a "feature" review. I've read quite a bit about Argerich in the American press.

Furthermore, any periodical reviewing piano CDs is sooner or later going to at least mention Argerich in some context, generally comparing her standard with the recording being reviewed. I cannot recall a single issue of Gramophone (and I've subscribed for years) wherein Argerich wasn't referred to at least once.

One politely wonders what else this individual has missed... ;\)
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#518188 - 12/05/08 05:11 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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#518189 - 12/05/08 06:34 PM Re: Pianist Fan Ranking
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Originally posted by argerichfan:
[QUOTE]

One politely wonders what else this individual has missed... ;\) [/b]
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ONE ALSO WONDERS just how broad and diversified an individual's experiences and tastes may be when he labels himself first and foremost a devotee of one particular artist alone.

Fortunately this one is partially redeemed with his four other choices in this particular thread.

I don't care very much for the stuffed-shirted critics who subject us all to their 'wisdom' in Gramophone. This crowd of ardent concertgoers is far less self-interested and often a great deal more down to earth.
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