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#521726 - 01/04/07 08:29 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Lol... that's a very difficult one to choose...

Liszt - Sonata
Liszt - Paganini etudes
Rachmaninoff - THIRD concerto
Rachmaninoff - Moments musicaux
Bach-Busoni - Chaconne
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Yes, of course many others, including:
Beethoven - 4th concerto, Brahms - both piano concertos AND the violin concerto, Liszt - piano concertos, Dante sonata, Mazeppa (symphonic poem), Wagner - Rheingold...
I can't count them all, alright? =}

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#521727 - 01/06/07 10:13 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Schumann piano Concerto a minor
Brahms op 118
Schubert Wanderer Fantasy
Debussy L'isle Joyeux
Beethoven op 110
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#521728 - 01/08/07 01:49 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Wagner Tristan
Liszt Mazeppa
B minor mass Bach
B minor Sonata Liszt
Handel's Messiah
Verdi Requiem
Brahms Requiem
Brahms Symphony No. 1

Are among my favorite pieces.
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#521729 - 01/09/07 08:14 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Are you forgetting the perennial favorite which is

Lean on Me - Bill Withers?

I'm trying to
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#521730 - 01/09/07 09:24 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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#521731 - 01/09/07 09:38 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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The statistics makes this really interesting, so since I answered the wrong questions last time I will enter the IMO greatest pieces ever[/b] .
I hope many others will keep BruceD occupied with changing the statistics.... \:D

Beethoven: Violin Concerto
Rachmaninov: 2. piano-concert
Bach: Brandenburger concert no 2
Mozart: Piano concert no 23
Handel: Messias


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#521732 - 01/09/07 04:24 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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#521733 - 01/09/07 04:48 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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 Quote:
Originally posted by dnephi:
Wagner Tristan
Liszt Mazeppa
B minor mass Bach
B minor Sonata Liszt
Handel's Messiah
Verdi Requiem
Brahms Requiem
Brahms Symphony No. 1

Are among my favorite pieces. [/b]
Ok then make my 5 votes:
B minor Sonata Liszt
Handel's Messiah
Verdi Requiem
B minor mass Bach
Brahms Symphony No. 1

P.S. to anyone who chose the Busoni transcription of the Chaconne, I suggest hearing the original. I strongly prefer it.
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#521734 - 01/09/07 05:13 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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What are the numbers next to your suggestions BruceD?

I first thought it was the number of the movement until i found 6 next to Rachmaninoff's concerto.

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Bach : Brandenburg Concerto No 2 – 1,
[/b]
One of my favorite pieces of music of all time!

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#521735 - 01/09/07 07:37 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Originally posted by BruceD:
Revised :

Elgar : Dream of Gerontius
I didn't expect to see that[/b] one up on anybody's list, but it is certainly on my[/b] list.
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#521736 - 01/09/07 08:00 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Originally posted by Bassio:
What are the numbers next to your suggestions BruceD?

I first thought it was the number of the movement until i found 6 next to Rachmaninoff's concerto.

 Quote:
Originally posted by BruceD:
Revised :
Bach : Brandenburg Concerto No 2 – 1,
[/b]
One of my favorite pieces of music of all time! [/b]
Those are the number of votes each piece has received. At last count, according to this poll, the Rachmaninoff Second Piano Concerto is the greatest piece ever written!! Actually, no, it isn't. It's just the most popular, so far.

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#521737 - 01/09/07 08:05 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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#521738 - 01/09/07 11:23 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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My list:

Opera, Verdi, Otello or Falstaff.
Lieder, Schubert, Winterreise
Orchestra, chorus and SATB, Beethoven, Missa Solemnis
Symphony, Brahms 4th
chamber music, Schubert, quintet (in c minor, I think).

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#521739 - 01/09/07 11:30 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Originally posted by tomasino:
My list:
chamber music, Schubert, quintet (in c minor, I think).

C major actually. Sorry, tomasino, don't get angry at me. I love that piece and I'm only giving you a...

Your admiration of Schubert is never in doubt and seconded here. \:D
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#521740 - 01/10/07 09:10 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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A more-or-less alphabetic list of “greatest” pieces and number of votes received.

Revision 3 :

Bach : Brandenburg Concerto No 2 – 1,
Bach : Mass in b minor – 1,
Bach : Passacaglia and Fugue in c minor – 1,
Bach : St Matthew Passion – 1,
Bach-Busoni : Chaconne – 1,
Bartók : Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste – 1,
Beethoven : Missa Solemnis – 2,
Beethoven : Piano Concerto No 3 in c minor, Op 37 – 1,
Beethoven : Piano Concerto No 4 in G major, Op 58 – 1,
Beethoven : Piano Sonata No 23 in f minor, Op 57: “Appassionata” – 2,
Beethoven : Piano Sonata No 29 in Bflat major, Op 106: “Hammerklavier” – 2,
Beethoven : Piano Sonata No 31 in Aflat major, Op 110 – 1,
Beethoven : Piano Sonata no 32 in c minor, Op 111 – 1,
Beethoven : String Quartet, Op 132 – 1,
Beethoven : Symphony No 3 in Eb major, Op 55, “Eroica” – 1,
Beethoven : Symphony No 9 in d minor, Op 125 – 4,
Beethoven : Violin Concerto in D major – 2,
Brahms : Piano Concerto No 2 – 1,
Brahms : Piano Pieces, Op 118 – 1,
Brahms : German Requiem – 1,
Brahms : Symphony No 1 – 1,
Brahms : Symphony No 4 – 1,
Brahms : Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel – 1,
Brahms : Violin Concerto – 1,
Britten : War Requiem – 1,
Cherubini : Requiem – 1,
Chopin : Ballade No 4 – 1,
Chopin : Piano Sonata No 3 – 2,
Debussy : Clair de Lune – 1,
Debussy : L’isle joyeuse – 1,
Elgar : Dream of Gerontius – 1,
Handel : Messiah – 4,
Haydn : The Creation – 1,
Liszt : Ballade No 2 – 1,
Liszt : Paganini Etudes – 1,
Liszt : Mephisto Waltz – 1,
Liszt : Sonata in b minor – 4,
Mahler : Symphony No 9 – 1,
Mingus : The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady – 1,
Mozart : Don Giovanni – 2,
Mozart : Mass in c minor, “Great” KV427 – 1,
Mozart : Piano Concerto No 20 in C major – 1,
Mozart : Piano Concerto No 23 in A major – 1,
Mozart : Requiem – 4,
Pärt : Festina Lente and Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten
Prokofiev : Piano Concerto No 2 – 1,
Prokofiev : Piano Sonata No 7 – 1,
Puccini : La Bohème – 1,
Raatavaara : Cantus Arcticus – 1,
Rachmaninoff : Moments Musicaux – 1,
Rachmaninoff : Piano Concerto No 2 in c minor, Op 18 – 6,
Rachmaninoff : Piano Concerto No 3 in d minor, Op 30 – 2,
Ravel : Gaspard de la Nuit – 1,
Ravel : Tzigane – 1,
Schoenberg : Verklarte Nacht – 1,
Schubert : String Quintet in C major, D956 – 1,
Schubert : Wanderer Fantasy – 1,
Schubert : Die Winterreise – 2,
Schumann : Fantasy – 2,
Schumann : Kreisleriana – 1,
Schumann : Piano Concerto – 1,
Schütz : Musicalische Exeguien – 1,
Shostakovich : Violin Concerto No 1 – 1,
Sondheim : Sweeney Todd – 1,
Strauss : Der Rosenkavalier – 1,
Stravinsky : Rite of Spring – 2,
Tchaikovsky : Romeo and Juliet – 1,
Tchaikovsky : Piano Concerto No 1 – 1,
Tchaikovsky : Violin Concerto – 1,
Verdi : Requiem – 2,
Wagner : Götterdamerung – 1,
Wagner : Tristan und Isolde – 2,
Wagner : Parsifal – 1,
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#521741 - 01/10/07 09:44 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Amongst a plethora of favourites, here are five musical works of whose beauty and genius I never tire:

Bach - St John's Passion
Beethoven - Piano Sonata Op109
Mahler - 6th Symphony
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring
Ravel - String Quartet

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#521742 - 01/10/07 11:28 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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five greatest PIANO pieces in my mind:

Beethoven - Piano Concert No. 5 (Emperor)
Schubert - Piano Sonata D960 (his last)
Liszt - Sonata in B Minor
Bach - Goldberg Variations
Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto No. 2

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#521743 - 01/12/07 02:08 AM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Beethoven: Symphony No. 9
Overrated.
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Mahler Symphony No. 9
Okay but not the best ever.
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Handel: The Messiah
Most overrated musical work ever.
 Quote:

Tchaikovsky: Violin Concerto
Okay but not the best ever
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Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 3
Most difficult yes, best no.
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#521744 - 01/12/07 12:37 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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A little surprised not to see any love yet for Beethoven's 7th.

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#521745 - 01/12/07 01:14 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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i love Beethoven 7th, but his 3rd is ranked higher and i only had 5 choices.

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#521746 - 01/12/07 04:01 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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I missed the poster who choose "Sweeney Todd"
Bravo--now that's really cutting edge music!
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#521747 - 01/12/07 04:13 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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 Quote:
Originally posted by HammerHead:
I missed the poster who choose "Sweeney Todd"
Bravo--now that's really cutting edge music!
Indeed, barbers can be very cutting edge. Sorry, couldn't resist. \:D
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#521748 - 01/12/07 04:23 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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I'm surprised Beethoven's 3rd symphony was mwntioned only twice. I think there are two types of music; music before the 3rd, and music after the 3rd. In terms of hisrorical importance the 3rd probably surpasses all other works by any composer.
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#521749 - 01/12/07 07:49 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam:
Had to make 7 cus these are all tied for the greatest, there's no way for me to break it down any more:
Mozart Requiem
Bach B minor mass
Handel Messiah
Cherubini Requiem
Brahms German Requiem
Beethoven Missa Solemnis
Mozart Mass in C minor

is there a pattern here? lol

hamus I like your choice of Kreisleriana though

and next 5 runners up are:

Brahms 4th symphony
Mozart Coronation Mass
Brahms 1st Piano Concerto
Beethoven 5th Piano Concerto
Brahms F minor Piano Quintet [/b]
we are in much agreement (altho i'm not much of a Brahms fan)
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#521750 - 01/12/07 11:05 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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My favourites, in alphabetical Order:

Bach - B minor Mass ("Kyrie" & "Dona nobis pacem")
Beethoven - Sonata 27 (Op. 90)
Boccherini - Cello Concerto in B-flat (2nd mov.)
Orlando Di Lasso - Missa Bell' Amfitrit' altera
Monteverdi - "Pur ti Miro"


Off the charts: "Cuchi" Leguizamón - Zamba de Juan Panadero

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#521751 - 01/01/08 08:26 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Bach - Goldberg Variations
Mozart - Fantasia and Sonata in C minor, K. 457
Schumann - Fantasy, op. 17
Prokofiev - Sonata no. 8 in B-flat major, op. 84
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#521752 - 01/01/08 08:30 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Why bring this up now?

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#521753 - 01/01/08 09:33 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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 Quote:
Originally posted by argerichfan:
 Quote:
Originally posted by HammerHead:
I missed the poster who choose "Sweeney Todd"
Bravo--now that's really cutting edge music!
Indeed, barbers can be very cutting edge. Sorry, couldn't resist. \:D [/b]
......nice :rolleyes:

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#521754 - 01/02/08 07:38 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Five? No. Five hundred? Well... Five thousand? Better, but I don't have the patience to type them all out.

After all, there are times, when I'm just in the right mood, when I think Chabrier was the greatest composer that ever lived. And an hour later, it might be Bruckner. And then in the next hour, Xenakis. It all depends on what I find most musically nourishing at the very moment I hear it, and that could be almost anything.

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#521755 - 01/02/08 08:42 PM Re: Five greatest pieces ever
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Inevitably, I don't feel qualified to name the greatest five pieces ever. Perhaps once I've listened to everything there is to listen, I'll come back with a better list... in two or three lifetimes.

Besides, this is a biased, mostly piano-based and ultimately ignorant list. But hey, here it goes:

1) Rachmaninov's 3rd. Yeah, I know, the 2nd is "nicer", but hearing the way he twisted the beatiful melodic line in the 2nd and 3rd movements of this concerto just does it for me. Particularly, the climax of the 2nd movement and how the dispariging, conflicting voices come to peace and unite after it in the denouement (as it were), has to be the best development I've ever heard.

2) Schönberg's Verklärte Nacht

3) Rachmaninov's Piano and Cello sonata, op. 19

4) Prokofiev's Alexander Nevsky

5) Piazzolla's Seasons.


OK, those were the answers off the top of my head. But what about Debussy's Arabesques and Clair de Lune, Chopin's studies (Black keys!), his Andante Spianato + Grand Polonaise (op. 22), Ginastera's "Estancia" suite, Tchaikowsky's Pathetique Symphony, Mendelssohn's lieder.... there're so many things, any list I come up with seems unfair and insufficient.

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