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#533738 - 09/27/02 09:33 PM
Re: Chopin Scherzo #1
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Registered: 04/17/02
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For me this piece is the equivalent of putting my hands under a lawnmower. You should read page 212 of Huneker's famous book, Chopin: The Man and his music. Here's some of it: QUOTE: """ The first Scherzo is a fair model. There are a few bars of introduction - the porch, as Niecks would call it - a principal subject, a trio, a short working-out section, a skilful return to the opening theme, and an elaborate coda. [...] The interior is romantic, is modern, personal, but the facade shows gleaming minarets, the strangely builded shapes of the Orient. This B minor Scherzo has the acid note of sorrow and revolt, yet the complex figuration never wavers. The walls stand firm despite the hurricane blowing through and around them. [...] The first pages are filled with wrathful sounds, there is much tossing of hands and cries to heaven, calling down its fire and brimstone.[...] He may have outlined the composition in a moment of great ebullition, a time of soul laceration arising from a cat scratch or a quarrel with Maurice Sand in the garden over the possession of the goat cart. [...] This scherzo might profit by being played without the repeats. """
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#533740 - 09/28/02 10:03 AM
Re: Chopin Scherzo #1
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Registered: 05/31/01
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Originally posted by pianoloverus:  Also, I've heard(but have no personal experience with this) that playing the closing chromatic scale in interlocking octaves is actually easier than playing it separately with each hand.[/b] It ain't easier for me! A few pianists, mostly old school, have substituted interlocking octaves for scales. In addition to Horowitz, Jean Marie Darre and Ruth Laredo come to mind.
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#533742 - 09/28/02 11:32 AM
Re: Chopin Scherzo #1
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A jury would definitely frown on a textual change on that level. They would probably think whoever put interlocking octaves into Chopin's Scherzo No. 1 was be a "Horowitz clone." You could probably get away with making changes to a Liszt Rhapsody (such as your own cadenza to HR#2), but to make major textual changes in Chopin is a no-no these days.
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#533746 - 09/29/02 12:20 PM
Re: Chopin Scherzo #1
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Don't forget than when Chopin wrote this piece, pianos had much lighter actions and fast velocity was easier to attain.
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