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Ive got to hear these recording by Van Cliburn and Horowitz. Ive only heard Lang Lang play it, and he is a very talented pianist. Please send any links or tell me if you have recordings that u could send me via email by these other pianists
I've heard Lang Lang's live on the radio - although he is obviously very technically talented, I thought that his Rach 3 was mediocre.

Surprisingly, he kept the tempos slow, and there wasn't much music behind it IMO.

Anyway, we have a solution!!!

http://classic.manual.ru/

go there, and yes, it's all in Russian, HOWEVER, you can make out what it says in the bottom left of the screen. Then you can find Rachmaninoff, his Rach 3 played by Horowitz (3 different versions!), Van Cliburn (!), Rachmaninoff (!), Volodos....and I believe Ashkenazy.

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By the way, I wouldn't listen to whomever recommended Sokolov's recording.

It's boring, and lacks personality.
THANK GOD - Someone with Sense. Sokolov's recording are horrible, they're too fast and their lifeless (emotionally.)

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Where can you get Lang Langs recording of Rachmaninoffs 3rd??? Anyway to get it online... cause I sure as heck won't be able to get it in Australia.

Most australians (I mean general public and CD Stores) couldn't give a crap about Classical Music. They're all SPORTS orientated....

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Stop asking for MP3s. Go out and buy the stupid CD.

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Bugger off iamcanadian....

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Sokolov's recording are horrible, they're too fast and their lifeless (emotionally.)
That opinion is - ironically - so antipodal to my own that I'm sure we'll never agree, but I am genuinely curious to know which of his recordings (besides the Rach 3) you have heard. Thanks,


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I like Horowitz's 1978 live rec (the filmed one) more than his 1951 one.

Besides that one, I love Sokolov's (the one Reaper hates), Kapell and Cherkassky's live one, I believe it's from the 50's-ish. Rachmaninoff's own recording is amazing too, I love what he does with the repeated notes part in the 2nd movement.

Cliburn's just boring to me, and Volodos is a good recording if you want to hear how it "should" be played, not fantasizing too much and stuff..

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Originally posted by Reaper Man:
[b] Sokolov's recording are horrible, they're too fast and their lifeless (emotionally.)
That opinion is - ironically - so antipodal to my own that I'm sure we'll never agree, but I am genuinely curious to know which of his recordings (besides the Rach 3) you have heard. Thanks,


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OK... Maybe I haven't heard any else of Sokolov's Performances, and I have never come across them. The only thing I have ever heard is Sokolov playing Rachmaninoff's 3rd.

And before you say - There you go, you've never heard any of his other pieces, how could you know... All I've ever said is that his Rach 3 was awful and lifeless.

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Sorry, no I wasn't trying to corner you; I just thought from your post that you must have heard more.


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I have at least a half dozen recordings of the Rach 3. To me, the Cliburn recording is the best due to the emotional intensity of the performance. I would place Horowitz second, and Lazar Berman dead last.

When the Berman recording came out in the 70s I remember buying it because of a favorable review I read, but to me, it is about as exciting as watching paint dry.


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Originally posted by Anima:
I like Horowitz's 1978 live rec (the filmed one) more than his 1951 one.

Besides that one, I love Sokolov's (the one Reaper hates), Kapell and Cherkassky's live one, I believe it's from the 50's-ish. Rachmaninoff's own recording is amazing too, I love what he does with the repeated notes part in the 2nd movement.

Cliburn's just boring to me, and Volodos is a good recording if you want to hear how it "should" be played, not fantasizing too much and stuff..
The filmed one??? I have been dreaming for years of seeing it! What format? DVD?...
As for me, I cherish all those who have played this beloved concerto. What about the great Emil Gilels in Moscow, in 1949, despite the quality of recording?...

(I have Horowitz 1978, Rachmaninov 1939, Wild, Gieseking 1940, Luganski, Gavrilov (I like it very much), Gilels, and some more...)

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I have heard Ashkenazy, Helfgott, Rachmaninoff and Alicia De Larroch play the Rach 3, as well as Sokolov. SO I have have heard 5 recordings... Not too bad, but I know there's more out there.

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if you dont mind me asking whats the opus number for rach third and whut makes the piece so hard?


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Piano Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30

Feb2000, I"ve got a VHS of Horowitz performing the Rach 3 with Zubin Mehta and the New York Philharmonic. It's quite good, especially for a 75-year-old man with 75-year-old fingers...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...002-3871883-1968054?v=glance&s=video

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89th Key has been raving about Nato Ts'vereli over in "The New Coffee Room." It's the only recording that he's heard of this concerto, and he's so in love with it!

Anybody else heard of this pianist? (I haven't!)


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if you dont mind me asking whats the opus number for rach third and whut makes the piece so hard?
Op. 30

What makes this piece so hard? Listen for yourself: 3rd Movement (5-Minute Sample)

It's from the disc " Horowitz Plays Rachmaninov ." Fantastic recording.


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I think this piece is way harder than it sounds. I remember hearing it and saying "what's the fuss, I could play this easy?" And so I get the music for it and still say "It doesn't look tooooo hard." Playing it is a whole different story.

And regarding Rach 2, it's just darned awkward!

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I have the Volodos recording on the way, just listened to Hamelin play it and then promptly threw my beloved Abbey Simon version in the garbage. wink
(Hamelin makes it sound too easy, not sure why he wastes his time with this piece.)

Hopefully I can find the Berezovsky version.....


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I have the Volodos recording on the way, just listened to Hamelin play it and then promptly threw my beloved Abbey Simon version in the garbage. wink
(Hamelin makes it sound too easy, not sure why he wastes his time with this piece.)

Hopefully I can find the Berezovsky version.....
I'm quickly becoming a very big Hamelin fan, but I didnt know he recorded the Rach 3. Is it on a commercial disc? If so, what label?

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No, it is a pirate recording. Frankly, I think it is pretty bad.

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Iamcanadian (or anybody else),

Have you heard Nato Ts'vereli's recording of this one? The 89th Key has been raving about it lately in the new coffee room.


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