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#544046 - 01/30/09 06:59 PM Are there easy pieces?
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My piano prof has been assigning most of us pieces easier (technically) than what we are used to playing. For myself, I've previously played Beethoven's "The Tempest"
Chopin's Ballade #1
Gershwin's Three Preludes.

The pieces I've been assigned are:
Debussy "The Girl with the Flaxen Hair" (last semester)
Mendelssohn "Songs without Words" (Op. 38,No. 4 and Op. 102, No. 3)
Schoenberg "Six Little Pieces" (Op. 19)

What I'm finding is that it is very difficult to play these pieces well, even though they are not technically difficult. The correct notes were easy enough to master. The second of Schoenberg's pieces features a repeated third (G and B) that must be very short staccato and pianissimo. It's nearly impossible for me to get those to come out evenly and without varying the dynamic level. It's frustrating to me that I can't get these pieces to where I want them, and yet they're supposed to be easy.

In that sense, are there really any pieces that are easy?

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#544047 - 01/30/09 07:21 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Arghhh:
[...] In that sense, are there really any pieces that are easy? [/b]
Well, your observation is the basis for the oft-voiced claim that Mozart (for example) is just as hard as Liszt (for example), only the type of difficulty is different.

I think that any "serious" music will have interpretive difficulty that has to be taken seriously. That would encompass just about everything except quasi-music with no pretense of musicality at all ... Hanon maybe? (And maybe I should duck for even suggesting that, but I can't think of anything else offhand!)

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#544048 - 01/30/09 07:21 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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This one! \:D

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#544049 - 01/30/09 07:24 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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And who says you aren't an Actual Composer™? ;\)

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#544050 - 01/30/09 07:25 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Oh. Nice easy piece. \:D

Although, did you really get a good mf, hold the note for the proper length? Sometimes I wonder if I obsess too much with the little details.

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#544051 - 01/30/09 07:29 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Seriously, though, I believe there are pieces that are easier than others. Bach minuets are easier than Beethoven sonatas, and the works of Martha Mier are easier than Prokofiev.

BUT...

I believe that you can bring great artistry to even the easiest of pieces. I don't believe Glenn Gould let himself "relax" more for the first invention than the 4th Partita, I would imagine he brought the same intellect and focus to both.

In a way, I actually think it's one of the tests of a pianist. A lesser pianist approaches works with a dedication and focus proportionate to the level of the piece, while the greater pianist strives to approach all music with full devotion.
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#544052 - 01/30/09 09:01 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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I actually think harder pieces are easier than easy ones \:D

I´m serious actually, I find that I concentrate and perform a lot better if I´m playing a very difficult piece, especially during examinations.

If I have been asigned some dirt-easy piece, like one of Purcells for instance, I feel it´s very tough for me to do an entertaining performance. Yeah I know, before everyone starts going "well, if you put your heart and soul into it it should sound good and be fun for you to play", of course I try to do that, it just sucks that I have to work so hard to try and make a simple peice somewhat interesting to play and listen to.

That´s why I prefer harder pieces, to me they are easier to perform confidently.

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#544053 - 01/30/09 09:10 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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I have a simmilar problem. I am playing pieces for my repetoire that are about a year ahead of what I am playing for lessons. I can play these harder pieces fine, but the easy little pidley things I get for my lesson, I struggle with. Like davaofthekeys said, the eaisier pieces just aren't interesting enough to hold my concentration for long. I do well, but I would call myself an intermediate pianist if I played my lesson pieces.
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#544054 - 01/30/09 09:22 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Well, it is possible to achieve excellent standard when performing "easy" pieces but achieving that is rarely easy.

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#544055 - 01/30/09 09:35 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Cage's 4'33''

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#544056 - 01/30/09 10:33 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Kreisler:
Bach minuets are easier than Beethoven sonatas, and the works of Martha Mier are easier than Prokofiev.
[/b]
She was my last piano teacher, but that was decades ago. Wow, I didn't know she had done so well. Go Martha!

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#544057 - 01/30/09 10:37 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Years ago in music school, I had a miserable time with Chopin's Ballade No. 3. I asked my former, childhood teacher why this was the case (she was personally learning it at the same time I was) and she exclaimed, "It's because it starts with one note in the middle of the keyboard, and if you don't like how you play it, the rest of the piece doesn't go well!"

So, even a one note piece is hard.

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#544058 - 01/30/09 10:51 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Kreisler:
This one! \:D

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I got a good guffaw out of that! ;\)

\:D
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#544059 - 01/30/09 10:52 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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Originally posted by beginningpianist:
Cage's 4'33'' [/b]
Na, it's hard because the audience throws their shoes at you after they realize they have been conned out of the ticket money. :p


\:D \:D


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#544060 - 01/31/09 12:01 AM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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 Quote:
Years ago in music school, I had a miserable time with Chopin's Ballade No. 3. I asked my former, childhood teacher why this was the case (she was personally learning it at the same time I was) and she exclaimed, "It's because it starts with one note in the middle of the keyboard, and if you don't like how you play it, the rest of the piece doesn't go well!"
Thanks for writing that. I feel better now. "The Girl with the Flaxen Hair" also starts with a quiet, single note, followed by a line of single notes. It usually took me a line and a half to recover from missing the first note.

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#544061 - 01/31/09 05:22 AM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Kreisler:
This one! \:D

[/b]
What, no fingering? And is this an Urtext? That's crucial to knowing the composer's intent.

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#544062 - 02/01/09 03:42 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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The only extant copy of the first edition of that (in a library in Budapest) shows a crescendo below the C.

To play a cresc. on a single note, one leans forward and emotes, by the way.

:p :rolleyes: :p

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#544063 - 02/02/09 05:33 PM Re: Are there easy pieces?
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There are a lot of technically easy and at the same time musically interesting and beautiful pieces!

Grieg: Arietta, Valz, etc. from the the first Lyric pieces

Tchaikovsky: Morning prayer, The new doll, Dolly is ill, Doll's funeral, etc from Children's Album

Erkki Melartin: L'heur bleue.

Merikanto: Summer night idyll

Schumann: Von fremden Ländern und Menschen, Träumerei from Kindeszenen, Eintritt from Waldszenen

When there are no technical difficulties you can reach perfection and make all your intentions and ideas about the interpretation come true.

On the other hand, every little mistake (e. g. hitting wrong notes) will be noticed...


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