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#544122 - 08/19/01 06:16 PM Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Registered: 07/31/01
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I decided to show some really great photos that I found in one of my Glenn Gould books.

I just scanned them and thought any fan of his might like to see these awesome photos also.

They're my favorite pictures of him because I think they express his inner beauty as well as his physical.

If anyone else has any other Gould photos, let me know where I can find them. =0) Also, does anyone know of any good recordings or videos of him to buy? I'm not really interested in the "32 Short Films" because it doesn't have actual footage of him, just someone portraying his life.

Anyway, the links to the photos are here:
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/glenn2.jpg
(my absolute favorite photo of him, probably because of the way he looks when he's concentrating)
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/glenn1.jpg
(a silly photo, kind of looks retarted hehe)
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/glenn5.jpg
(Warming his hands up before playing, he usually did this for a half an to release tension before a big performance...my second favorite photo)
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/glenn4.jpg
(with his chair that he took to almost every performance because it was adjusted perfectly. His father added all the adjustments)
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/glenn3.jpg
(a really really nice profile shot)

If anyone has anything else to add about Glenn, feel free. I like to hear other people's views on him and his life, his playing, or even if they know any interesting little facts. He's really fun and interesting to learn about.

Also, has anyone ever watched his performace of the Bach Concerto No 1 with the Philharmonic Orchestra? It's his best in my opinion.

Zeldah

[ August 19, 2001: Message edited by: ZeldaHanson ]

[ August 19, 2001: Message edited by: ZeldaHanson ]
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544123 - 08/19/01 09:09 PM Re: Glenn Gould
PianoMuse Offline
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Registered: 06/04/01
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Loc: Philly, PA
OHHHH soooo hooott, want to touch the hiney..
-Billy Madison

Oh, ummm.. i mean, what an excellent pianist he is, of the highest calibur, and i am attracted to him simply because of his pianism and it has nothing to do with the fact that he is ( or should i say was)exteremly gorgeous....
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#544124 - 08/19/01 10:12 PM Re: Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Ha, so I take it you enjoyed those photos too... I got them from a book called the Ecstasy and Tragedy of Glenn Gould. What a beautiful creature.
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544125 - 08/19/01 11:03 PM Re: Glenn Gould
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There is an excellent documentary of Gould out there, I forget but it might be called The Glenn Gould Story. Lots of Gould footage there, as well as interviews with people in his life.

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#544126 - 08/20/01 12:06 AM Re: Glenn Gould
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I have recently taken an interest in Glenn Gloud's performances, and so after reading "Gould life and variations" I purchased his recording of the Goldberg Variations. His life was interesting, as was his playing, but I think that is where it stops. I would rather listen to a Horowitz or Rubinstein, because Gould simply had too many abstract ideas for music which only work when you want to be shocked. He did contribute many decent ideas about technology and the future of music, but I fail to understand why he held Mozart (Chopin and Beethoven to a lesser extent) in such a horrible light. This is too show his limitations in some way, and I am starting to think he can't really play anything if its not a fugue! (Perhaps a bit over exaggerated, but he did think Beethoven's works and others were too simple, not enough counterpoint and the like). An interesting character none the less, and an important Bach interpreter, even if he did take many liberties with Bach's music.

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#544127 - 08/20/01 08:36 AM Re: Glenn Gould
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Registered: 07/13/01
Posts: 605
Loc: toronto
glenn gould is my favorite all time pianist, even if I dont like everything he does...no one gets me thinking as much as he does, and his life and ideas are fascinating too...
gould made many documentaries and appeared on a weekly t.v. series on cbc (candian broadcasting corperation)most of these featre him talking about and playing various peices (i have a video of him performing the complete goldberg variations..its amazing), and one of him performing mostly twentieth century reportoir...schoenberg and webern etc...but there are many more, and there all availbaly through sony classical...a lard music store with a good classical music section should carry at least a couple of them..
hope you enjoy

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#544128 - 08/20/01 09:23 AM Re: Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Ya Glenn definetly had many insults towards Beethoven. He said he didn't feel very sympathetic towards Ode To Joy (which i never have either) and also that Fantasia was just a lazy rehash of Ode. T. J. He constantly described Beethoven works he didn't like as "maligned." But then again he played Beethoven all the time.

He said he felt he knew the composer's works better than he did and that he could improve upon them.

Personally I've never heard his Beethoven recordings, but I'm figuring I would most likely like them because I love anything that is not played the "approved" and expected way.

Anything that is abnormal or stands out above the rest, but still played beautifully at the same time, is what attracts me. That's also why I think I love Glenn so much. He was unlike any other pianist, even with the way he sat at a piano. He was just completely different than everyone in every way. He loved to be in control of his music, never letting the audience influence his playing. He played for himself with no one else's interests in mind.

It isn't a wonder at all how all the people who produce their own work souly for themselves go down in history as geniuses.

His stage fright fascinates me also. Something that I can complete relate with. He once said:
"I hate playing for audience because I feel like they're watching what I do rather than listening to the music."
Has anyone else ever gotten that feeling also?

Sandman, out of curiousity, what don't you like that Glenn does? How old was he on that Goldberg Variations video you have, and is there anyway you would trade or sell a copy of the recording?


Zeldah
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544129 - 08/20/01 02:42 PM Re: Glenn Gould
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Registered: 07/13/01
Posts: 605
Loc: toronto
hi zelda,

i suppose what i dont like most is glenn's beethovan, it is very interesting and brings out aspects of the work that you might at first not have even noticed, but overall i dont think his way of performing it really suits it well...my favorite stuff by him is his Bach (of course), and his schoenberg.

the video is from the recording sessions from his second recording of the goldberg variation..when was that, 1980 i think, he was 49 at the time if im not misteaken...sorry but im not gonna part with it, i enjoy it too much..but it shouldn't be that hard to find, or order...try amazon.com they'll probably have it...or for sure you can order it from the sony classical web site...keep loking, its worth it...
hope this helps.

p.s. who is john galt?

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#544130 - 08/20/01 02:48 PM Re: Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Registered: 07/31/01
Posts: 276
Loc: Cape Cod, MA, USA
Well I wasn't asking you to necessarily part with the video, just make a copy. But that's ok, I'll order it somewhere.

Jon Galt....is a liberator =0)
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544131 - 08/20/01 04:11 PM Re: Glenn Gould
Susan Offline
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 36
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Hi Zelda, several of the videos (Glenn Gould Collection) that Sony put out are available at walmart.com....GG at Walmart :rolleyes:
good prices, though, even with the exchange I'm mighty tempted. Full details of whats on them is, I believe, available at www.glenngould.com, or possibly at sony classical.
Also, a great documentary by the National Film Board, www.nfb.ca/homevideo, called "Two Portraits of the Celebrated Pianist" includes 'Off the Record' recorded at his cottage, and 'On the Record', in New York at a recording session. Highly recommended.

Susan

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#544132 - 08/20/01 05:28 PM Re: Glenn Gould
meltone1 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 41
Loc: Wichita KS
thats really strange about Gould's views on Beethoven's music.. I recently picked up a Gould record at a garage sale with Beethoven's three most popular sonatas,(says he) appassionata, moonlight and pathétique. Before I even heard someone say he did not really "feel" Beethoven's music, I could sense that when I listened to his record. It seemed like he just banged through the pieces without the least bit of emotion..he played through the moonlight sonata at break-neck speed and the first movement was way way too fast in my opinion. And then in the final movement, he started to sound sloppy he played it so fast.. it was almost like he was trying to make sure to fit all the songs on one record so he played them twice as fast as normal!
As for him saying he could improve on some of the maestro's works... I can only say i've listened to one of Gould's "compositions" and it sounded like something a toddler could have sat down and scribbled out...nevertheless his Bach has a great deal of insight and expression and the Goldberg variations are exceptional.

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#544133 - 08/21/01 10:52 AM Re: Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Registered: 07/31/01
Posts: 276
Loc: Cape Cod, MA, USA
I just bidded on the Glenn Gould video "of the record" at ebay. I'm sooo excited to get it. I'm really interested in films from his younger days. What I would really like to find though, are his TV appearances. Has anyone actually seen them on US channels?

He's so interesting and I love reading his biographies because every time I do, I found out we have more in common than I thought before. He's definetly a man you can relate to if you are an isolated type, a hyprochondriac, narcissit, introverted, and eccentric. (in the best sense of the words)

Meltone, where did you find Glenn's compositions? I would really love to hear those. What do you mean when you say they sound as if they were written by a toddler? If it's extremely simple music, there's nothing wrong with that, because even some of Bach's music was so simple it seems even a child could've thought of it. It all just matters who has the fresh idea first, not how complicated or simple it is. But sometimes it takes genius to create even the most simplistic idea, I've learned. Maybe it's quite something different that you're referring too though, you'll have to tell me what you mean. =0)

Glenn had a couple string quartets that he was really proud of. I'm curious as to what those sound like.

I found more BEAUTIFUL Glenn pictures. I will post them tonight. =0)
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544134 - 08/21/01 04:55 PM Re: Glenn Gould
ZeldaHanson Offline
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Registered: 07/31/01
Posts: 276
Loc: Cape Cod, MA, USA
Here's another good picture of him. The hair...ha.
http://www.hanson.net/users/zeldah/Sexyglen.jpg
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Glenn Gould in regards to music:

The problem begins when one forgets the artificiality of it all, when one neglects to pay homage to those designations that to our minds-to our reflect senses, perhaps-make of music an analyzable commodity. The trouble begins when we start to become so impressed by the strategies of ours systematized thought that we forget that it does relate to an obverse, that it is hewn from negation, that it is but a very small security against the void of negation which surrounds it.

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#544135 - 08/21/01 08:24 PM Re: Glenn Gould
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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 41
Loc: Wichita KS
Oh, they have a performance of one of his works for strings on the 32 short films... I guess I didn't really want to imply that it was simple, just that it didn't have any substance..it just sounded like someone just scratched down some notes as to no consideration for their meaning or place.. says me anyways.

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#544136 - 08/21/01 10:37 PM Re: Glenn Gould
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Registered: 06/27/01
Posts: 86
Loc: New Jersey
Sounds descriptive of much 20th century music to me. I just don't get a lot of it. I do love Poulenc, though. \:\)

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#544137 - 08/22/01 05:08 PM Re: Glenn Gould
meltone1 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 41
Loc: Wichita KS
yea Poulenc is kinda addictive.. my teacher had me work on mouvement perpetuel 1st mvt. all I could do after I first heard it played was laugh \:\)

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