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#545235 - 01/18/02 02:31 PM New to forum / here is an interesting phenomonon
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Registered: 01/18/02
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Hello, this is my first post. Great forum. I am in my 40s (but well preserved). Took lesson through H.S., but never practiced. (When you and your friends are listening to Cream, Hendrix, the Beatles, etc. its hard to get pumped up about playing the Merry Widow Waltz). Got back into piano as an adult.
Anyway, something of interest: For years I have played the Moonlight Sonata 1st mvt. It is generally pretty good except for a few of those annoying "bumps" that always seem occur in the same places, and are tough to get rid of. I recently downloaded a new copy of the sheet music (same notes but a different transcription)...and played the piece from this much, much better! I think psychologically it got me away from some negative cues associated with the transcription from which I learned. Like "oh no I always screw up playing this part after turning the page", or seeing markings for trouble spots, etc." Has anyone experienced this? I proceeded to try it with Chopin's C#mi Waltz OP 64 # 2. Same thing...played it better.
Maybe it is just me, and others might find the opposite, that they need the "comfort" of their original piece of music.
Personally I think that it is great because just as I don't carry my piano with me, I don't carry my sheet music around either. So if I go to someones house, and they want me to play something on their piano and have some standard piano literature, I can feel very comfortable playing from their books.
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#545236 - 01/18/02 06:16 PM Re: New to forum / here is an interesting phenomonon
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In the way of interesting phenomena, I've found that by playing the left-hand part with the right and vice versa, just by themselves, is very effective at memorisation and other skills. At first this confused me as to why it suceeds, but I'm now pretty sure it's because it makes you think about the notes again, rather than just letting your fingers remember and figure it all out. Just thought I'd share that little tidbit with you all.

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#545237 - 01/19/02 07:37 AM Re: New to forum / here is an interesting phenomonon
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Stanza:

I'm not sure about your use of the word transcription. A transcription is an "arrangement" of a composition, often for an instrument other than the one for which it was originally written. If you're talking about the Beethoven "Moonlight" do you simply mean a different printing, or a different edition of the original?

You did say "same notes" so I presume you are talking about the original Op 27 No 2 and you mean that you have downloaded not a different "transcription" but a different edition of the work.

Not to nit-pick, but there is a distinct difference in meaning, and I want to understand what you did to understand your post.

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#545238 - 01/21/02 03:12 AM Re: New to forum / here is an interesting phenomonon
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Stanza, I understand your problem. I have a version of Rachmaninoff's Prelude in C# Minor that is"clarified-but not simplified by Allen Small". I didn't understand this untill I saw another version that was "unclarified". I have a difficult time playing this as it is notated so differently it is hard to read. The problem I have is, the Allen Small version cuts a five page song into only two pages, and the other version is difficult to read the missing parts. It occured to me that I could transcribe the "unclarified" version on the computer, using a notation program, using the style of Allen Small. This would have two benifits, not only could I have one easily read version, but in the process of transcribing it (desiding how best to group notes for ease of reading and movement from one chord to the next,) I would learn the song more intimately, since I would have to think of hand placement as I notated. Now all I need to do is get a notation program. : )
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#545239 - 01/22/02 10:18 AM Re: New to forum / here is an interesting phenomonon
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BruceD,
Yes, to be more accurate, playing better from a different printing or edition of the music is what I meant (same notes). However, sometimes the same notes can be "transcribed" differently... for example when Beethovan has a line of notes played by the right hand that descends from the upper to the lower staff, as opposed to notating RH upper LH lower exclusively. Same notes, just a different way of stating them. (although this can achieve interpretive differences)
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