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#552291 - 03/19/07 08:11 PM Pieces that every pianist should know
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So What Pieces do you think every pianist should know. doesn't have to be a list or anything (lists are welcome) it can just be one piece.
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#552292 - 03/20/07 02:49 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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IMHO, it all starts with Bach 48 (WTC).

Without this there is nothing. ;\)
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#552293 - 03/20/07 04:10 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Play the WTC to get some fundamental basics down. Play Beethoven sonatas to get an unerstanding of music down. Play technical studies from the romantic era to develop a strong technique.
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#552294 - 03/20/07 06:23 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by SilentKoala:
Play the WTC to get some fundamental basics down. Play Beethoven sonatas to get an unerstanding of music down. Play technical studies from the romantic era to develop a strong technique. [/b]
...and when you've done that get back to Bach and you might learn what music is really all about. (Bach is paramount, not a mere step on the way.)


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#552295 - 03/20/07 06:33 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Scarlatti: selected Sonatas
JS Bach: a (comprehensive) selection of WTC I & II, English/French Suites, Partitas
Haydn: selected Sonatas
Beethoven: selected Sonatas
Schubert: selected Sonatas/Impromptus
Mozart: selected Sonatas
Chopin: selected Etudes, Preludes, Scherzi, Mazurkas, Waltzes, Nocturnes, Polonaises, Ballades.
Schumann: Kinderszenen, Album für die Jugend, Kreisleriana, plus selected others.
Liszt: Consolations/Liebesträume, a few TEs, plus a selection of Hungarian Rhapsodies.
Brahms: Piano pieces Op. 118/119, plus selected others
Scriabin: a selection of Preludes plus maybe a Sonata or two.
Mussorgsky: selections from Pictures at an Exhibition.
Debussy: Suite Bergamasque, Children's Corner, Preludes I & II, Images I & II, Pour le Piano, plus selected others.
Ravel: Sonatine, Tombeau de Couperin, Three Pieces, etc.
Rachmaninoff: selected Preludes/Etudes-Tableaux
Bartók: selected piano works
Hindemith: selected piano works
Prokofiev: selected Sonatas
Shostakovich: selected Preludes, Preludes/Fugues

Probably forgotten lots of others, but off the top of my head, this is what I would expect an experienced, medium to advanced level, amateur classical pianist to be at least familiar with, and be able to make reasonable representations of specific works, though of course not necessarily play the whole list upto public performance standard.

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#552296 - 03/20/07 07:40 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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All pianists should know:

Bach 48 Preludes and Fugues, as well as one of each kind of suite and one partita.

A Beethoven Sonata

Liszt Sonata

At least... My Opinion ;\) .

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#552297 - 03/20/07 07:55 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Apparently, this thread is about pieces that every CLASSICAL pianist should know.

The truth of the matter is, most people in the average audience/party/function, unless it's a recital or concert, have no understanding of classical music, and thus, no appreciation of it.

In my humble opinion then, (FWIW) every pianist should know a variety of pieces for a variety of settings, ranging from pop, boogie, classical, jazz, ragtime, baroque, and pop.
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#552298 - 03/20/07 08:09 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by dnephi:
All pianists should know:

Bach 48 Preludes and Fugues, as well as one of each kind of suite and one partita.

A Beethoven Sonata

Liszt Sonata

At least... My Opinion ;\) .

Dan [/b]
I don't understand you list. By "Bach 48 preludes and fugues," do you mean the entire WTC? I don't think that's realistic, and there are lots of really good pianists who don't play all 48.

"A Beethoven Sonata." Just one? Now I'm going in the other direction \:\) . I think a good pianist should play a handful of Beetoven sonatas.

"Liszt sonata." Well, not everyone plays that one, but it's still a great piece to study. I would say a mix of Liszt from "Annees," etudes, HRs, etc.

Where's the Mozart, Haydn, Chopin, Mendelssohn?

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#552299 - 03/20/07 08:23 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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I said every pianist. Chopin you can choose if you must. Haydn is nice, and preparatory to Beethoven.
Mendelssohn if you must. Mozart is good but I didn't think really essential.

I agree with Busoni- You must play Bach, Beethoven and Liszt. Because they are the greatest composers for their instrument.

I just think that everyone should have the experience of a the Liszt Sonata, a Beethoven Sonata, and Richter said that the WTC was the hardest thing he ever did.

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#552300 - 03/20/07 08:45 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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#552301 - 03/20/07 09:05 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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I Gotta say - Mendelssohn is very under-rated and under-appreciated. He's one of the composers (along w/Beethoven) that I wish had lived longer.

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#552302 - 03/20/07 09:27 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Of Mendelssohn's output, the Serious Variations are incredible. The Prelude and Fugue in e is good.

But that rather ends his "great" writing for piano. He did far better in other fields, such as chamber music, symphonies, Elijah. There lie his greater masterpieces.

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#552303 - 03/20/07 09:58 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Dan,
I tried open your link but had no luck. Any suggestions?

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#552304 - 03/20/07 09:59 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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("Shut up, Frank. You don't know any of these pieces, so you can't possibly be a pianist." "Yeah, Frank: Shut up. Classical is the only music in the world.")
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#552305 - 03/20/07 10:33 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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i don't think Liszt sonata is a must for any pianist, because it leads to the argument like this about me: i will never play it anyway which means i'm not a serious pianist or never will be.

i think some sonatas from Beethoven, Mozart or Haydn-Clementi are necessary. Bach is a 'have-to', some of his WTC or inventions at least. also, some Chopin etudes are necessary, even though one doesn't have to play all op.10 & 25 sets.

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#552306 - 03/20/07 10:46 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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At least 3 or 4 selections from the WTC. (One or two from each book.)

A couple of Mozart sonatas, as well as 3 or 4 by Beethoven.

At least a handful of Chopin Etudes, along with a Nocturne or two and a Scherzo or Ballade.

A Prokofieff sonata and a Rachmaninoff Prelude or Etude.

A couple of Debussy Preludes.
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#552307 - 03/20/07 10:52 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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You're right. I take that back. I think I'd like everyone to have the experience of studying the sonata, but I don't think it's compulsory.

Really, then, you should know some Bach WTC, some Chopin Etudes, some Classical Sonatas, and maybe just one thing from 20th century.
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#552308 - 03/20/07 10:56 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by w_scott@verizon.net:
Dan,
I tried open your link but had no luck. Any suggestions? [/b]
Right-Click save as should work. If not, then I don't know what's wrong. Do you have excel?

Dan
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#552309 - 03/20/07 11:04 AM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Happy Birthday. Seriously: it'll earn you respect everytime you churn out the old piano at granma's at such occasion...
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#552310 - 03/20/07 12:15 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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I think PoStTeNeBrAsLuX has pretty well covered everything. And then I'd add Happy Birthday (thanks, namekuseijin) and a dozen Christmas carols (these seem to be especially useful around Christmastime) with Auld Lang Syne.

Now, someone else choose the Christmas carols.
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#552311 - 03/20/07 12:16 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Absolutely. There are a ton of other songs that people request over and over. Cranking out Bach or Prokofiev might be impressive, for about ten minutes, but after that, people begin yawning. Jazz standards, blues, boogie, ragtime, popular Broadway tunes... Mix it all up, maybe throw in a classical piece here and there, and people remain interested.

It's like going out for a lavish meal, where the food is served slowly, one course at a time: My wife and I might really enjoy that, together. Just the same as musicians may enjoy sharing classical pieces with each other. No way would I enjoy sharing that kind of meal with a group/crowd of people, and likewise, most groups/crowds of people don't care for an evening of Classical tedium, IMO.
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#552312 - 03/20/07 12:28 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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hehe, it's as if they all have a big blindspot for any music other than classical...as it happens I agree with you Frank.
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#552313 - 03/20/07 01:00 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by Frank_W:

Jazz standards, blues, boogie, ragtime, popular Broadway tunes... Mix it all up, maybe throw in a classical piece here and there, and people remain interested.
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I agree a pianist should have a broad repertoire. But he should also know his public: it won't work throwing in some Bach hidden in the middle of jazz pieces: they'll yawn anyway.

 Quote:
Originally posted by Frank_W:

likewise, most groups/crowds of people don't care for an evening of Classical tedium, IMO.
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Yeah, they are too busy having their daily garbage dose for breakfast.
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#552314 - 03/20/07 01:23 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Not sure what you mean by "garbage," and not sure that I'm deserving of your sarcasm. "Garbage" isn't a term I've used nor implied. If you want to get into an argument with someone, sorry: Starting with me will not benefit you in any way.
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#552315 - 03/20/07 01:50 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Frank, your assumption is the crowd finds "classical" boring, right?

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#552316 - 03/20/07 01:54 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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jazz is not a requirement for a pianist (unless you're a jazz pianist), a taste maybe.

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#552317 - 03/20/07 01:57 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Frank, your assumption is the crowd finds "classical" boring, right? [/b]
Where did I say that it was an assumption? Did I say that anywhere? No, I didn't. In my experience, yes, I've seen people react to pianists playing exclusively classical, by yawning and moving to another part of the house to get away from it.
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#552318 - 03/20/07 02:00 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by signa:
jazz is not a requirement for a pianist (unless you're a jazz pianist), a taste maybe. [/b]
And classical is required by whom? The "authorities" on this board? LOL Classical is not a taste or preference? Really?

It's required by no one, unless you are a music major in a university or conservatory.
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#552319 - 03/20/07 02:13 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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I think that the suggestion that every pianist should [/b] be able to play a variety of musical styles is quite laudable.

However, those of us who have devoted a lot of time to trying to develop our skills to play classical music would find it impossible to find the time necessary to learn to play - with any degree of skill and conviction - pop, jazz, blues, rock, ragtime, etc. These require such different techniques and such different knowledge of the keyboard as that required for playing classical music that life might just not be long enough to be proficient in all genres. I know for a fact that some very good classical pianists have no idea how to play a pop tune or blues or jazz.

Yes, I've played my own arrangements of "pop standards" well enough to be paid for doing so, but I would never pretend to have the required knowledge to play blues, rock, ragtime (unless it's written out as is the music of Scott Jopin). When I think how much time has been devoted to the study of classical music - although some of the technique I have would serve for other music, of course - I don't know where I would ever find the time to study other genres so that I could perform them well enough that others would derive pleasure from it.

It is true that some of the great classical pianists do dabble in jazz and that the occasional jazz pianist does play some classical - perhaps because that was where the original training and focus were - but I'm not aware of any "pianists" who can play all genres well.

I think I'd rather do what I can do as well as I can, instead of trying to spread myself so thin that nothing I played would please anyone. If this means that I am not a "pianist", well, I guess I'm not a "pianist".

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#552320 - 03/20/07 02:13 PM Re: Pieces that every pianist should know
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Originally posted by Frank_W:
Where did I say that it was an assumption? Did I say that anywhere? No, I didn't. In my experience, yes, I've seen people react to pianists playing exclusively classical, by yawning and moving to another part of the house to get away from it. [/b]
I apologize.

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