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#552757 - 12/23/07 10:57 PM Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Pahl Bankschuler Offline
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Registered: 07/09/07
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Loc: US
I discovered this interesting audio lecture series by Andras Schiff on the complete Beethoven sonatas:

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

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#552758 - 12/23/07 11:11 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
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Loc: Ohio, USA
old news already. i downloaded them all several months ago...

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#552759 - 12/24/07 01:40 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Registered: 12/12/07
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Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
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Originally posted by signa:
old news already. i downloaded them all several months ago... [/b]
Lucky you. Myself, I'm quite happy to see people posting this sort of "old news"--I haven't heard these before. Thanks Pahl!

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#552760 - 12/24/07 02:03 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Registered: 09/09/03
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Loc: San Francisco
This is really wonderful. Better than reading a "dry" book or text. Sciff is both insightful and entertaining.

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#552761 - 12/24/07 09:45 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Having listened to a few of them, I was expecting more from him. I didn't learn anything that couldn't be gleaned from the score and from general music history knowledge. Eh, I'll give a few more a shot...
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#552762 - 12/24/07 09:46 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Loc: New York City
 Quote:
Originally posted by Janus Sachs:
Having listened to a few of them, I was expecting more from him. I didn't learn anything that couldn't be gleaned from the score and from general music history knowledge. Eh, I'll give a few more a shot... [/b]
I pretty much agree with that.

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#552763 - 12/24/07 09:49 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Registered: 10/21/06
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Loc: New Jersey
I've listened to them all. They provide useful historical knowledge for those of us who are perhaps not already enlightened.

This is how I learned about the Fb/F issue in the first mvt. of op. 53.
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#552764 - 12/24/07 09:58 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Janus K. Sachs Offline
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Registered: 10/31/07
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I suppose taken in the spirit of their intended audience, i.e. the general public, they're not too shabby. Better than some program notes I've seen, for sure, and a good way to engage Joe and Jane Public in more active listening.
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#552765 - 12/24/07 03:57 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Pahl Bankschuler Offline
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Registered: 07/09/07
Posts: 160
Loc: US
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Originally posted by signa:
old news already. i downloaded them all several months ago... [/b]
How was it that you initially found out about them? What was your source?

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#552766 - 12/24/07 04:38 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
signa Offline
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someone posted the link here a while ago, and there're some threads too since then discussing the lectures or some specific sonatas, such as Moonlight.

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#552767 - 12/24/07 06:36 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 4
Loc: Maryland
I went to Schiff's recital at the Lucerne Festival last month. Out of the 7 recitals that I attended, I enjoyed his best. His playing is technically flawless but highly nuanced; there was feeling even when he played Haydn. Not to be outdone by Pollini, who played the night before and did three encores, Schiff did four, including one of my favorites pieces, the Hungarian Melody.
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#552768 - 12/25/07 09:12 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Matthew_dup1 Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 60
Loc: Australia
thanks Pahl.

what a great resource - it is insightful and his passion is infectious, a refreshing way to 'hear it new' - and it is free.

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#552769 - 12/25/07 09:31 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Pahl Bankschuler Offline
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Registered: 07/09/07
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I am hoping he does more of the same with other composers.

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#552770 - 12/26/07 03:14 AM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
Digitus Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 866
Loc: Singapore
I think those lectures were the culmination of his preparation to record the entire Beethoven sonata cycle. The CDs started coming out a year or two ago. He's recently released CD #5. I'm collecting them as they come out.

I already have Brendel's cycle, Barenboim (live, on DVD), and Kovacevich. None perfect, but all insightful.

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#552771 - 12/27/07 03:06 PM Re: Andras Schiff: The Beethoven Lectures
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Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 45
Loc: USA
Yes thank you, it's very interesting.
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