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I can't trace mine to any one.

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Wow, I am really impressed how far all of you can trace your teachers back!

I never gave it much thought all these years until the question came up elsewhere for me recently so I made a point to ask my most recent teacher who she studied from.

My current teacher studied from Elizabeth Stern. She is supposedly famous for cranking out competition winners. I can't find much info. on her. Anyone ever heard of her?
This is your piano teacher???
http://elizabethstern.com/index.html

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According to her website, Elizabeth Stern does study violin as well as kung-fu. It's that kung fu training that no doubt helps her crank out competition winners.


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This is interesting many people seem to come from the Liszt/Leschetizky Line. Well Im no exception lol.

Hamilton
LaBrew
Dean Noland
Artur Schnabel
Leschetizky
Czerny
Beethoven...etc

Hamilton
Mierelles
Gyorgy Sandor
Bela Bartok
Istvan Thoman
Franz Liszt
Czerny
Beethoven...etc

Liszt Leschetizky were great masters of their craft obviously and had a great effect on todays playing!


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According to her website, Elizabeth Stern does study violin as well as kung-fu. It's that kung fu training that no doubt helps her crank out competition winners.
So does the Lizzie McGuire and cheerleading

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Re: Elizabeth Stern comments - LOL! You guys are very funny. You must be in a humorous mood today. I had found that website previously too, hee, hee!

Well, my teacher just said she was famous and I asked her the following week if she was famous locally, nationally? Famous could be a number of things I suppose. Her reply was regarding famous for students winning competitions. I've just found a few articles where students won competitions with the mention that she was their teacher. Oh well, laugh .

Hey, maybe she was related to Isaac Stern?

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Don't hit a sour note. She will kung-fu you in the head!! *POW!!* LMAO


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Don't hit a sour note. She will kung-fu you in the head!! *POW!!* LMAO
That must be the right person because that's what my current teacher does!!! She must have learned it from her teacher. I have a headache after every lesson.

OK, already - sorry I chimed in the thread.

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My teacher had no music lessons aside from a few informal ones from Elgar, and Elgar had no teacher at all, so mine grinds to a halt pretty quickly.


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Ludwig Beethoven


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Contrapunctus: Between Safonoff and Czerny you left out Leschetizky--taught by Czerny and then taught Safonoff. My 'Teacher Pedigree' goes back 19 'generations' to Binchois and Dufay and includes several hundred different ones since my teacher studied with quite a few very famous teachers--Hofmann, Rosenthal, Gallico, Siloti, Goldmark, etc. He told me how long and what kind of correspondence he had to do to get all of the information. He has them alphabetized and numbered so they are easy to find and then determine who taught whom until it gets to him. It's quite interesting and most of the famous names are on there somewhere.

Koji mentioned Thomas Attwood as one of his ancestors and he's on the chart--Nr. 253--and was a student of Mozart.

The poster who mentioned Leschetizky and Liszt is quite right that Czerny studied with Beethoven and they, Leschetizky and Liszt, became two of the most important teachers of the 1800's. Leschetizky is reputed to have turned out more famous pianists than any other teacher--Paderewski, Hambourg, Goodson, Gabrilowitsch, Brailowsky, etc.

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My current teacher was a student of the Swiss pianist Adrian Aeschbacher (1912-2002) during his years in Zürich; Aeschbacher[1] was a pupil of Schnabel.

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[1] Whose recordings apparently include Brahms' 2nd piano concerto with Furtwängler/Berlin Philharmonic.


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PoStTeNeBrAsLuX: Schnabel was student of Leschetizky in Vienna so your lineage goes back to Beethoven and even further, of course. I studied in Vienna with Frau Petyrek-Lang who had studied with Edwin Fischer--another 'leg' of the pedigree! I didn't trace his teachers tho, but I'm sure it would lead back to someone on the chart.

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Originally posted by xyz2004slc:
Recently, I found out that my teacher was a student of Fleisher and Hautzig, so I can trace my lineage all the way back to Beethoven! Knowing that this is true for me, this is probably true for many of you.
How true!

My lineage:
Me
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Fleisher
Schnabel
Leschitizky
Czerny
Beethoven (etc., back to Bach...)

I have other 'lineages' which include Liszt, the Lhevinnes, and Rachmaninoff.

Perhaps the most intriguing one is the line which includes Kodály, Bartók, Schnabel, Kraus.

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Originally posted by Bosendorfer88:
that's all very impressive, how did you trace those back?
I asked my teacher who his teacher was. After that I looked up biographies on the Internet.

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Possibly Cortot. The one real teacher I had was a French warbride that had studied in Paris at the right time. I was too uninformed at the time to ask her and it's too late now.


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Didn't Liszt teach the Lhevines?

My teacher (Sydney Young McInnis)was taught by Rosina at Julliard. So I was hopig to have come from Liszt!

But Beethoven and Czerny are satisfactory smile


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Like most here, my current teacher's lineage goes back to Beethoven and before.

My first teacher many years ago had studied with Dame Myra Hess who studied with Tobias Matthay. But try as I may I have never been able to ascertain who Matthay's teacher(s) was. I have Googled everything. Even the Matthay Society website doens't mention who taught Matthay. Does anyone know?


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