Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#554349 - 12/17/01 12:39 PM Another Question ....
Mr. Gould Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/07/01
Posts: 1111
I have a recital coming up and I was wondering what songs I should play.

Right now I am picking between just playing the entire Beethoven piano sonata 23...

or Liebestraume by Liszt, and only the last movement from The Beethoven piano sonata 23.
( which I love)


So the two songs or the one....
What do you people think will sound better?

Top
Ad 800 (Pearl River)
Pearl River World's Best Selling Piano
#554350 - 12/17/01 06:16 PM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
PIECE! Call it a piece if it has no words. Thsi comes from a disscussion that we had a long time ago. Play Liebstraum. I wish that I could play that piece. Its so beautifull.
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554351 - 12/17/01 08:02 PM Re: Another Question ....
trance Offline
Full Member

Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 43
Loc: OZ
I agree with Jgoo, they are called pieces, not songs.

I don't mean to be rude but I question your piano technical ability, if you can't even manage the simplest of terminology.
_________________________
trance

Top
#554352 - 12/17/01 10:57 PM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
 Quote:
Originally posted by trance:
I don't mean to be rude but I question your piano technical ability, if you can't even manage the simplest of terminology.[/b]


What d-ya mean?!? Its difficult, I have attempted it several times, maybe making it past the first page or two, but never further. I'd like some more explination, if your gona' insult me like that! Otherwise, I wouldn't have minded. (If there was a bit of explanation behind you statement).
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554353 - 12/17/01 11:01 PM Re: Another Question ....
Brendan Online   content



Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5318
Loc: McAllen, TX
 Quote:
Originally posted by trance:
I agree with Jgoo, they are called pieces, not songs.
[/b]


He wasn't talking to you, jgoo.
_________________________
http://www.BrendanKinsella.com

Top
#554354 - 12/17/01 11:05 PM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
OH, DEAR GOD NO! I'VE JUST REALIZED, VOID MY LAST MESSAGE. IT SOUNDS TOO... ZELDAISH. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE CAUSE OF ANY STUPID THING LIKE WHAT WE SAW BEFORE. BYE THE WAY, BRENDAN: LOVED THAT FABULOUS GUY! IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT HE MAY MAKE AN ENCORE APPEARANCE?
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554355 - 12/17/01 11:08 PM Re: Another Question ....
Brendan Online   content



Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5318
Loc: McAllen, TX
No.
_________________________
http://www.BrendanKinsella.com

Top
#554356 - 12/18/01 03:26 AM Re: Another Question ....
Rodion Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Salt Lake City
i think we should lay off classical player for calling pieces songs, after all (s)he's from canada...
_________________________
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Hector Berlioz

Top
#554357 - 12/18/01 11:44 AM Re: Another Question ....
jodi Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 6959
Loc: The Evergreen State (WA)
"I don't mean to be rude but I question your piano technical ability, if you can't even manage the simplest of terminology."



Sounds rude to me. Geez - give the guy/girl a break! Or at least correct him/her NICELY. \:\) Jodi

[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: jodi ]

Top
#554358 - 12/18/01 12:03 PM Re: Another Question ....
Vid Online   content
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 848
Loc: Vancouver, B.C.
From Canada? Rodion! What in the *&#$ is that supposed to mean?!


Its also a pet peeve of mine when people call instrumental works 'songs'. It cheapens them somehow. (no offence to any singers out there) ;\)
_________________________
Kawai VPC1, Pianoteq, Galaxy Vintage D

Top
#554359 - 12/18/01 12:34 PM Re: Another Question ....
AnneH Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/03/01
Posts: 38
Loc: Dallas, Texas
Back to the original question....

 Quote:
Originally posted by Classical Player:
I have a recital coming up and I was wondering what songs I should play.

Right now I am picking between just playing the entire Beethoven piano sonata 23...

or Liebestraume by Liszt, and only the last movement from The Beethoven piano sonata 23.
( which I love)


So the two songs or the one....
What do you people think will sound better?[/b]


I am making the assumption that you are studying with a teacher...so I wonder what his/her opinion is or are you allowed to choose for yourself? If this is a recital with several students you may want to find out what others are playing.....I recently attended a recital where repetition seemed to be the theme...not enough variety to keep the audience attention.

Recitals, for some, can jolt the nerves so I would suggest that you play what you love and feel most proficiant at. Tastes and levels of accomplishment vary on this board so I am sure you will get a wide range of suggestions.

Good luck with whatever you choose...keep us posted!

Anne

Top
#554360 - 12/18/01 01:44 PM Re: Another Question ....
Samejame Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 808
Loc: NL, Canada
Yeah, Rodent!!! ER...sorry... that's Rodion ;\)
What's with the Canada thing?

Jamie
_________________________
"A cynic knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" Oscar Wilde.

Top
#554361 - 12/18/01 03:09 PM Re: Another Question ....
Amy Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/07/01
Posts: 433
Loc: Upstate New York
After reading this post I think that some of us need to be a bit nicer to each other. Classical Player is new here and we need to welcome him/her.

If I were you I would probably play Liebestraume because the other may bore the audience if they do not know classical music well.
_________________________
-Amy-
*Visit my page! http://www.expage.com/pianopalace

Top
#554362 - 12/18/01 04:03 PM Re: Another Question ....
Rodion Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Salt Lake City
relax, i'm just joking, don't worry i'm a big kids in the hall fan.
_________________________
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Hector Berlioz

Top
#554363 - 12/18/01 05:27 PM Re: Another Question ....
Bernard Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/06/01
Posts: 3857
Loc: North Groton, NH
What the ... ! Did everyone get up on the wrong side of the bed today? Like my mom used to say, "There must be bad weather coming."

Incorrect usage of the word 'song' is a pet peeves of mine also, but Classical Player cannot be faulted if s/he was never taught. It is up to us to correct p*o*l*i*t*e*l*y.

Hope everyone's day turned out pretty good.
_________________________
"Hunger for growth will come to you in the form of a problem." -- unknown

Top
#554364 - 12/18/01 06:28 PM Re: Another Question ....
Rodion Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Salt Lake City
i agree with bernard, i was making a joke about canada, nothing personal against our friend. to actually correct him or her it wouldn't be hard to do so politely.
_________________________
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Hector Berlioz

Top
#554365 - 12/18/01 07:53 PM Re: Another Question ....
aznlilies2001 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/05/01
Posts: 27
Loc: Dallas
Hey! Canada's cool!

I know, I absolutely hate it when my school friends call pieces songs. "So, what song are you learning now? What's your favorite piano song?" Grrr!!
_________________________
"People who love music love it everyday. Ask anyone. They have a passion for it, and passion don't leave you alone."--James Conlon

Top
#554366 - 12/18/01 08:13 PM Re: Another Question ....
yok Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 464
Loc: New Zealand
If Classical Player is capable of playing Beethoven Op 57 in recital then I for one wouldn't be casting aspersions on his/her technical ability.

CP,

I'm not sure playing only the 3rd movt of the Beethoven is such a good idea. Those fortissimo diminished sevenths at the beginning will sound much less effective without being built up to at the end of the slow movt. So probably a good idea to play at least the slow movt as well. BTW, good luck with that Presto coda!

Top
#554367 - 12/18/01 11:35 PM Re: Another Question ....
PianoMuse Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/04/01
Posts: 902
Loc: Philly, PA
whew..a heated discussion..its about time, for a moment there i actually thought things were going to be boring without zeldah ( haha)...
_________________________
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music." ~Rachmaninoff

Top
#554368 - 12/19/01 01:10 AM Re: Another Question ....
Brendan Online   content



Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5318
Loc: McAllen, TX
You know, it's interesting how everyone can talk about Zeldah so pejoratively now that she's gone (?) but no one would say those things when she was here.

Not that I'm sticking up for her or would ever have a desire to; just some food for thought.
_________________________
http://www.BrendanKinsella.com

Top
#554369 - 12/19/01 09:34 PM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
 Quote:
Originally posted by Brendan:
You know, it's interesting how everyone can talk about Zeldah so pejoratively now that she's gone (?) but no one would say those things when she was here.

Not that I'm sticking up for her or would ever have a desire to; just some food for thought.[/b]


Interesting... Zeldah could be an annoyance but, she wasn't THAT bad. So what if an argument sprung up here or there. They were fun. I just don't want to be the one behind it, is all. I like to jump in if one flares up.
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554370 - 12/19/01 09:57 PM Re: Another Question ....
Amy Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/07/01
Posts: 433
Loc: Upstate New York
The arguments were funny but I liked Zeldah
_________________________
-Amy-
*Visit my page! http://www.expage.com/pianopalace

Top
#554371 - 12/20/01 01:25 AM Re: Another Question ....
trance Offline
Full Member

Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 43
Loc: OZ
Clarifications:

Number 1:

Originally posted by trance:[/b]
 Quote:
I agree with Jgoo, they are called pieces, not songs.

I don't mean to be rude but I question your piano technical ability, if you can't even manage the simplest of terminology.


I wasn't talking to jgoo. If anything, I was agreeing with you. An apology for your earlier remarks would be appreciated.

and Number 2:

Originally posted by jodi:[/b]
 Quote:
Sounds rude to me. Geez - give the guy/girl a break! Or at least correct him/her NICELY.


I'm sorry but that's the nicest I could have done on a raining Wednesday morning.

[ December 20, 2001: Message edited by: trance ]
_________________________
trance

Top
#554372 - 12/20/01 11:26 PM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
From Trance:
 Quote:
I wasn't talking to jgoo. If anything, I was agreeing with you. An apology for your earlier remarks would be appreciated.


An apology? I'm sorry for the miss-understanding, yes, but if you would just take a moment to hear my side of the argument:

Heres what I said:

 Quote:
PIECE! Call it a piece if it has no words. Thsi comes from a disscussion that we had a long time ago. Play Liebstraum. I wish that I could play that piece. Its so beautifull.


Then, heres what you said, right afterward:

 Quote:
I agree with Jgoo, they are called pieces, not songs.
I don't mean to be rude but I question your piano technical ability, if you can't even manage the simplest of terminology.


I'm sorry, but that does sound as though you are questioning MY technical ability, as to the fact that I said that I couldn't play Liebstraume. I mean, who eles could you have been critisizing? The only other remark before mine was:

 Quote:
I have a recital coming up and I was wondering what songs I should play.
Right now I am picking between just playing the entire Beethoven piano sonata 23...

or Liebestraume by Liszt, and only the last movement from The Beethoven piano sonata 23.
( which I love)


So the two songs or the one....
What do you people think will sound better?


It sounded as though you were bashing me, questioning me about my piano technical ability, saying that I couldn't even manage the simpilest of termonolgy. The simpilest of termonology..., what the hell does that even mean?

Okay look, I apologize for the mix-up, but next time, I wish that you would clarify a bit better to whom you are speaking.

[ December 20, 2001: Message edited by: jgoo ]
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554373 - 12/21/01 12:38 AM Re: Another Question ....
Rodion Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Salt Lake City
jgoo, trance wasn't speaking to you about technical ability. it was an offhand comment to classical player, said because classical player's 'termInology' is all messed up - so it seems classical player's technical ability must be questionable too...get it? (sorry for the third person usage but it's hard to guess the gender on some of these names).
_________________________
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - Hector Berlioz

Top
#554374 - 12/21/01 12:44 AM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
 Quote:
Originally posted by Rodion:
jgoo, trance wasn't speaking to you about technical ability. it was an offhand comment to classical player, said because classical player's 'termInology' is all messed up - so it seems classical player's technical ability must be questionable too...get it? (sorry for the third person usage but it's hard to guess the gender on some of these names).[/b]


Ah ha! Gotcha'. Now it all makes sense to my. So, Trance, I guess that a full apology is in order... I'm sorry. \:\(
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554375 - 12/21/01 12:49 AM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
Its so very easy to take things on this forum the wrong way, and you have to be careful as to think through and process what others are saying. I guess that I should have realized it earlier. Okay, now, feeling a bit stupid, I think that I'll take a short break and be back in a little while.
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554376 - 12/21/01 12:50 AM Re: Another Question ....
Brendan Online   content



Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5318
Loc: McAllen, TX
Gah!

Couldn't you have waited ten more minutes to apologize? I worked so hard on it, too...

\:\(
_________________________
http://www.BrendanKinsella.com

Top
#554377 - 12/21/01 12:52 AM Re: Another Question ....
jgoo Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 3974
Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA
 Quote:
Originally posted by Brendan:
Gah!

Couldn't you have waited ten more minutes to apologize? I worked so hard on it, too...

\:\([/b]



But not until I have first replied to this. Now, I'm curious as to what has been so hardly worked on. Another graphic, I suppose...

[ December 21, 2001: Message edited by: jgoo ]
_________________________
For off-topic discussion, please feel free to visit www.coffee-room.com

Top
#554378 - 12/21/01 01:18 AM Re: Another Question ....
Brendan Online   content



Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 5318
Loc: McAllen, TX
\:\(

Even though I already deleted it, the idea and desire for future application lingers!

\:\)
_________________________
http://www.BrendanKinsella.com

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
What's Hot!!
8 Live Ragtime Piano Players on the Cape!
-------------------
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Seiler Pianos
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Help with my DGX-650
by Jtreimer
10/20/14 07:21 PM
Piano tuning career prospects 2014
by Morrisos
10/20/14 06:56 PM
Ack! My piano is diseased!
by TwoSnowflakes
10/20/14 06:34 PM
Painting Piano Keys
by imustlearn
10/20/14 06:00 PM
Kawai MP7: Damper controller - bug or feature?
by Banshee
10/20/14 05:37 PM
Who's Online
134 registered (accordeur, alfredo capurso, ahrensjt, 36251, 39 invisible), 1467 Guests and 13 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
76599 Members
42 Forums
158390 Topics
2325804 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission