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#560592 - 09/24/07 03:55 AM Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Hi Everyone!
Has anyone here played 'Suite for Trumpet and Piano' by Vaclav Nelhybel? It was written in 1966 and goes for approx 4-5 minutes. I'm learning it for an accompanyment assessment in 3 weeks, and I haven't found any background information or recordings of this piece. I'd really like to hear a recording, as it is quite syncopated and dissonant, and my trumpeter is still learning the notes.
Any performance tips or links to recordings would be greatly appreciated! (I've already tried Google and Youtube)
Thanks \:\)
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#560593 - 09/24/07 06:12 AM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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I only have one suggestion, since I don't know the piece. Make sure you play the trumpet part on the piano first. Then play the trumpet part with the trumpeter so he plays it correctly. Then you can start adding the bass lines and harmonies. Learn small sections at a time.

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#560594 - 09/24/07 08:59 AM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Originally posted by Tenuto:
Make sure you play the trumpet part on the piano first. Then play the trumpet part with the trumpeter so he plays it correctly.[/b]
That's a surefire way to insult the trumpeter.
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#560595 - 09/24/07 03:06 PM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Well, I didn't mean this in an insulting way. EbonyIvory meantioned that he was still learning the notes. The accompanist might want to discuss this with the trumpeter first, especially if the trumpeter is a beginning student.

Also, it depends on what level the accompanist is as well. Wuz just trying to help.

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#560596 - 09/25/07 07:53 AM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Thanks for the replies! Well, i'm quite comfortable with the accompaniment, and i think if my trumpeter plays by herself slowly, then she's fine. Its just when I come in she gets a bit lost. She won't get assessed- I'm just getting assessed for the accompaniment- but I'd be happier if we were together! I do try to 'catch up' with her when she gets lost.
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#560597 - 09/26/07 09:21 AM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Yes I've played it (I can't believe that someone else has!) -- I performed it recently (about 4 months ago) and it went really well. The key to your part is that you need to practice with metronome a lot (that's obvious I know). The trumpeter needs to do the same and probably even more because she doesn't have your part in front of her. You can also help her out by being clear about first beats, and maybe you should make sure she knows what you do on certain first beats in the piece. Also, make sure you have points in the piece that you can both start at and recognise fully so that even if one of you gets lost, you can listen for these points. good luck!

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#560598 - 09/26/07 11:10 PM Re: Suite for Trumpet and Piano by Vaclav Nelhybel, 1966
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Thankyou Iain! What movement did you like the best? I like the last one-its a lot of fun, i can't help smiling when we play together \:\)

Yes, next time we practise, we're DEFINATELY using the metronome for a good amount of time!! There are some bits were she will play on the beat, and i play on the off beat (or vice versa) and so we really need to work out what is happening in those bars.
Also, how did you work out dynamics and accents? In most movements (exept the 2nd and 4th) I seem to play forte all the time, and my accents are even louder than that. The trumpet is pretty loud, so I know i certainly won't drown her out! But should there be a lot of dynamic variation within the movements? I'm just asking because I haven't heard any other interpretation apart from ours!!
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