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#582923 - 05/05/08 06:39 PM Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
celegorma Offline
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Hi, I would like to play some four hand pieces (on 1 piano) with my friend. We are both advanced players and we would like to play something thats quite substantial. We are also more interested in pieces that are in the romantic era. Does anyone have some good suggestions \:\)

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#582924 - 05/05/08 07:33 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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Schubert: Fantasie in F minor, D. 940
Schubert: Allegro in A minor, D. 947
Schubert: Sonata in C Major "Grand Duo", D. 812
Schubert: Characteristic March #1 in C Major, D. 968b
Schubert: Military March #1 in D Major, D. 733
Brahms: Hungarian Dances
Dvorak: Slavonic Dances
Bizet: Jeux d'enfants
Debussy: Petite Suite
Faure: Dolly Suite and Masques et Bergamasques


Plus I notice that Dover has some collections of four-hand music (which I have not actually seen) including one of 19th century composers:

http://store.doverpublications.com/0486238601.html

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#582925 - 05/05/08 07:36 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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Liszt Fantasia and Fugue on Ad Nos Ad Salutarem Undam
Reminiscences de Norma
Reminiscences de Don Juan
Faust Symphony
Brahms Variations and Fugue on a theme of Haydn
Piano Quintet in F Minor, (Op. 34bis)

Those are some of my favorites- in particular, I'll mention the Don Juan Fantasy, which exploits the antiphonal possibilities of the two piano arrangement exceptionally well.
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#582926 - 05/05/08 07:47 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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Czerny's Grande Sonate Brillante, Op.10 for Piano 4 Hands is one of the finest pieces composed for duet.

It approaches Schubert's great Fantasie in f minor in quality.


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#582927 - 05/05/08 08:07 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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rachmaninoff's suite no. 2 opus 17

first mvt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAM1dC1pQaQ&feature=related
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#582928 - 05/05/08 08:11 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Copake:
Brahms: Hungarian Dances
Dvorak: Slavonic Dances[/b]
:)
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#582929 - 05/05/08 08:51 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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I heard that Beethoven wrote a four hands version of his Grosse Fugue.

That might be interesting.
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#582930 - 05/05/08 09:05 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Copake:

Brahms: Hungarian Dances [/b]
i second this one
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#582931 - 05/05/08 09:19 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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All of the Brahms 4 hand Waltzes are some of my all-time favorites.


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#582932 - 05/05/08 09:31 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
wr Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by dnephi:
Liszt Fantasia and Fugue on Ad Nos Ad Salutarem Undam
Reminiscences de Norma
Reminiscences de Don Juan
Faust Symphony
Brahms Variations and Fugue on a theme of Haydn
Piano Quintet in F Minor, (Op. 34bis)

Those are some of my favorites- in particular, I'll mention the Don Juan Fantasy, which exploits the antiphonal possibilities of the two piano arrangement exceptionally well. [/b]
But the original poster specified one piano duets...

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#582933 - 05/05/08 09:55 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
kyliec Offline
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Hi, I have played En Bateau from Debussy's Petit Suite and the Bercuese from Faure's Dolly Suite. Both are in the Dover book that Copak suggested. They are quite lovely and reasonably easy but that book does contain some more meaty works.
Cheers, Kylie

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#582934 - 05/05/08 10:02 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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 Quote:
Originally posted by wr:
 Quote:
Originally posted by dnephi:
Liszt Fantasia and Fugue on Ad Nos Ad Salutarem Undam
Reminiscences de Norma
Reminiscences de Don Juan
Faust Symphony
Brahms Variations and Fugue on a theme of Haydn
Piano Quintet in F Minor, (Op. 34bis)

Those are some of my favorites- in particular, I'll mention the Don Juan Fantasy, which exploits the antiphonal possibilities of the two piano arrangement exceptionally well. [/b]
But the original poster specified one piano duets... [/b]
Oh, I'm so sorry!

I then recommend the 4-hand reduction of the Mazeppa Symphonic Poem.
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#582935 - 05/05/08 10:08 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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 Quote:
Originally posted by dnephi:
 Quote:
Originally posted by wr:
 Quote:
Originally posted by dnephi:
Liszt Fantasia and Fugue on Ad Nos Ad Salutarem Undam
But the original poster specified one piano duets...
Oh, I'm so sorry!
The Liszt is for one piano, 4 hands.
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#582936 - 05/05/08 10:17 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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So which ones on dnephi's list are for 2 pianos, and which are for 1 piano 4-hands?

And (edit:) can I add the Debussy Six Epigraphes Antiques.
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#582937 - 05/05/08 10:23 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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You may want to take a look at Piano Duet Repertoire: Music Originally Written for One Piano, Four Hands by Cameron McGraw. It lists several thousand duets, and as the title says, they are all original, not arrangements.

One of my favorite big substantial duet pieces isn't a Romantic piece, but I thought I'd mention it anyway, because it is so good. It's Vincent Persichetti's Concerto for Piano 4-Hands (without orchestra). It's big, colorful, and exciting work lasting around 18 minutes, a major work. It has an absolutely exhilarating coda that involves a remarkable accelerando that starts with 16th notes at MM=40 and gathers unstoppable momentum over a span of thirty measures of 2/4 time, until it reaches a presto of a quarter at MM=144. And then he bumps the tempo up yet more a bit later - you're really flying when you head into the final huge explosion of fortissimo chords at the very end that make the piano ring like an enormous bell. It's a fantastic piece, one of the masterpieces of the duet genre.

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#582938 - 05/05/08 10:25 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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ANy of the Mozart Sonatas for 4 hands - but especially the F and C sonatas.
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#582939 - 05/05/08 10:32 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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Just remembered another \:\)

I've always wanted to have a go at Chabrier's Souvenirs de Munich (a "tribute" to Tristan and Isolde). Has anyone played it?
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#582940 - 05/05/08 10:41 PM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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 Quote:
Originally posted by currawong:
So which ones on dnephi's list are for 2 pianos, and which are for 1 piano 4-hands?
All except the Liszt Ad nos (originally for organ) are for 2 pianos. Per a later post of yours, I've heard the Chabrier, but don't seem to have a recording of it. My CDs are all catalogued in an Access database -every individual work has a listing- but I must have lost that Chabrier somewhere along... oh well.
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#582941 - 05/06/08 03:07 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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One of my favorite works for four-hand piano is the Sonate by Francis Poulenc (not the two-piano Sonate).
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#582942 - 05/06/08 04:53 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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There's a load of music by Milhaud which I think is all 2 piano 4 hands, although I thought Scaramouche was 1 piano. Anwyay the complete list is

Scaramouche Op 165b
Kentuckiana Op 287
Le Bal Martiniquais Op 249
Les Songes Op 237
carnaval à nouvelle-orléans Op 275
La Libertadora Op 236a
La Boeuf sur le Toit

There's also a piano sonata by Hindemith for 1 piano/4 hands and another one for 2 pianos/4 hands.

Then there's Ragtime duet by Stravinsky.
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#582943 - 05/06/08 05:34 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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For one piano, four hands--

Sonata by Poulenc
Ragtime by Hindemith
Legends by Dvorak
Duettinos by Clementi (great fun to sight read)
Ma Vlast (transcription) by Smetana
Mother Goose Suite by Ravel

There is a lot of Schubert and Diabelli that fits this category. The obvious choice is Schubert's Fantasy in F minor, which is one of my favorite pieces of all time.

I've read somewhere that Mendelssohn wrote stuff for him and his sister Fanny to play. You might have to dig through the library for those.

Are you limited to one piano? There's a ton of fun stuff for two pianos (piano duo).
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#582944 - 05/06/08 09:02 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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I posted the following short list many moons ago:

Piano Duet Music


Beethoven: Grosse Fugue, Op.133/134
Three Marches Op.45/1-3
Sonata in D, Op.6


Bizet: Jeux d’enfants (12 pieces)


Brahms: Hungarians Dances
Waltzes, Op.39


Clementi: Sonata in C Major


Debussy: La Mer (arranged by the composer)
Petite Suite


Dvorak: Slavonic Dances, Opp.46/72


Faure: Dolly, Op.56


Grieg: Norwegian Dances, Op.35


Liszt: Les Preludes (arranged by the composer)


Mendelssohn: Allegro Brilliant, Op.92
Variations in Bb Major, Op.83a


Moszkowski: Spanish Dances, Op.12


Moussorgsky: Sonata


Mozart: Sonatas K.381/401/358/521/497


Rachmaninov: Six Pieces, Op.11


Ravel: Mother Goose


Saint-Saens: Pas Redouble, Op.86


Satie: La Belle Excentrique
Parade


Schubert: Divertissement a la Hongroise, Op.54
Fantasy in F minor, Op.103
Rondo in A, Op.107
Three Military Marches, Op.51
Two Marches, Op.121


Schumann: 12 Pieces for Large and Small Children, Op.85
Kinderball, Op0.130


Stravinsky: Five Easy Pieces
The Rite of Spring (arranged by the composer)
Three Easy Pieces


Weber: Sonatina in C
Adagio
Romanza
Mazurka
Menuetto


Hope this helps...

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#582945 - 05/06/08 09:03 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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I second the Mozart K. 497 (in F) and K. 521 (in C) four hand sonatas. The Hindemith four hand sonata is one of his best works and certainly deserves more frequent performance. And of course the Schubert F minor Fantasy and C major "Grand Duo" are magnificent.

I wonder if a new edition of Beethoven's original four hand version of the Grosse Fuge has been prepared in light of the recently found (Oct. 2005) manuscript?

Other four hand (one piano) works of note:

Mozart: Variations in G K. 501.

Faure: Souvenirs de Bayreuth -- extremely funny if you're familiar with Wagner's Ring.

Brahms: Variations in Eb on a theme of Schumann Op. 23 -- a lovely work full of Brahmsian lyricism and warmth; not to be confused with the Op. 9 Variations in F# minor on a theme of Schumann for solo piano.
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#582946 - 05/06/08 09:15 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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If you go here:

http://www.pianophilia.com/pun/viewtopic.php?id=46

you'll see hundreds of scores for 4 hand piano music. You may have to register(FREE)first.

Also, if you try to download the music to an non-recent post you may not be able to, but you can always request that someone repost it and this is usually successful.

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#582947 - 05/06/08 09:35 AM Re: Suggestions for 4 hand pieces
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Second the motion on the Mendelssohn Allegro and the Schubert Fantasy...

BTW, anybody know of a good recording of the Mendelssohn? Great piece, cannot understand why it's not out there...HELP!!

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