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#583834 05/01/03 02:21 AM
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Does a piano transcription of this exist? I was thinking of doing it as my summer project(Maybe 2 pianos), but I won't bother if one already exists.
It is such a dark and beautiful piece.

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Could you be a little more specific? Composer and instrumentation perhaps?

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It's an orchestral tone poem by Rachmaninoff. Probably his best known orchestral work next to the second symphony.


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Every Romantic composer was required to produce a piece with Dies Irae in it somewhere.


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Originally posted by Palindrome:
Every Romantic composer was required to produce a piece with Dies Irae in it somewhere.
So true.

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Rachmaninoff and Liszt surely did, but I can't think of any by Chopin, Schumann, Schubert, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, or Mendelssohn. Care to enlighten us?

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I don't know about those, but it's also been used by Berlioz in the final movement of his Symphonie Phantastique.


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Originally posted by iamcanadian:
It is such a dark and beautiful piece.
My question is: why would you want to re-write Rachmaninoff? Particularly when reducing it from full orchestra to piano, it seems that so much would be "lost in the translation" that it wouldn't be worth the effort.

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BruceD, I have a cd of kissin playing a transcription/piano arrangement of the vocalise that I really like - I guess, technically, that too is a rewriting of Rachmaninoff. Have you heard it? -Elliott

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Bruce D:

Lizst - the Master - and Bussoni wrote many, many piano transcriptions of orchestral works, opera, cantatas, songs etc. Transcription writing is an art form.

Lizst wrote transcriptions of Schubert songs and all the Beethoven symphonies for example. They are so incredible to listen to and such a gift to the pianist to play these works.

If possible, listen to the 6th, 3rd and 9th Beethoven symphony transcriptions and some of the Schubert song transcriptions (all of Lizst) and then decide if transcriptions are a strange idea.

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Originally posted by Kreisler:
Rachmaninoff and Liszt surely did, but I can't think of any by Chopin, Schumann, Schubert, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, or Mendelssohn. Care to enlighten us?
In Chopin's case, a fragment of it turns up as the bass line in one of the preludes (sorry, can't find my score right now). Schubert was more a classicist than a romantic, I think. No explanation for the others. They may not have read the same book of instructions for romantic composers that I did. wink


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OK, this is an old thread, but I am also urgently looking for a 4-hand or 2-piano transcription of Rach's Isle of the Dead.

I found out that a 2-piano version has been recorded on this record:
http://www.musicabona.com/catalog1/PRD250131.html

Does anyone know at least who transcribed this work?

Klaus

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Every Romantic composer was required to produce a piece with Dies Irae in it somewhere.
Mahler included it in his 2nd Symphony


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