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#590105 - 03/17/05 01:17 PM Can you name this tune
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i was sitting aroudn watching a cartoon, and I heard a very common piece. I THINK it's by Bach, it goes:
all in the octave above middle C

C(half note) E G(quarter notes) B(dotted quarter) C D(not sure think sixteenth) C(half note)
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#590106 - 03/17/05 01:20 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Are you talking about Mozart's Piano Sonata K. 545?

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#590107 - 03/17/05 01:21 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Mozart, sonata K545, "Facile"

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#590108 - 03/17/05 01:30 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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yup thats it, thanks alot
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#590109 - 03/17/05 01:35 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Wouldn't it be cool if the Forum had a series of note and staff icons (or a little scripting UBB or HTML program) so that we wouldn't have to write things like
"C(half note) E G(quarter notes) B(dotted quarter) C D(not sure think sixteenth) C(half note)"?
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#590110 - 03/17/05 01:42 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Originally posted by ivorythumper:
Wouldn't it be cool if the Forum had a series of note and staff icons (or a little scripting UBB or HTML program) so that we wouldn't have to write things like
"C(half note) E G(quarter notes) B(dotted quarter) C D(not sure think sixteenth) C(half note)"? [/b]
not really........that would be crazy hot
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#590111 - 03/18/05 06:36 AM Re: Can you name this tune
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Recommend the Barlow and Morgenstern "Dictionary of Musical Themes" - best investment you will ever make...trust me on this one...

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#590112 - 03/22/05 04:49 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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i was gonna make a new topic but since its about this piece ill just ask it here. If it's called the "Facile" sonata, (which means 'easy' in spanish) then why is it ranked very difficult?

http://www.8notes.com/scores/662.asp?ftype=ext
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#590113 - 03/22/05 05:53 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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it (k545) is not that difficult, but it is just not a beginner's piece.

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#590114 - 03/22/05 06:35 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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at the site I gave you it is categorized as advanced and has the difficulty bar all the way up
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#590115 - 03/22/05 07:02 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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"The sonatas of Mozart are unique - they are too easy for children and too difficult for artists" -- Artur Schnabel.

I always hated playing Mozart sonatas because they were always "too easy". (A teacher at my school once scoffed at one of my remarks... hehe) But now I realize how much difficulty I actually did have with musical issues in the sonatas (and technical issues as well).

The first movement of the K545 Sonata was my first classical piece that I played (a big step up from the modern American sheet music that we all go through). I never liked it!

By the way, 'facile' also means 'easy' in French as well.
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#590116 - 03/22/05 07:11 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Originally posted by concertpianist12988:
at the site I gave you it is categorized as advanced and has the difficulty bar all the way up [/b]
i play the 1st 2 movements of it and am learning the 3rd movement now. so, i know it is not an advanced piece if i can play it. the 1st movement of it is the most difficult one of the 3, and the 2nd movement is the easiest. the difficulties of this piece are mostly not about notes/passages, but playing well and evenly. if you take a look at the 1st movement, there are mostly scales, arpeggios and Alberti bass, looking innocent and simple. but when you play it, you'd soon find out what it takes to play those simple stuffs well. that's Mozart, i guess.

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#590117 - 03/22/05 07:14 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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If you can play scales, arpeggios, and Alberti basses, you can play any Mozart Sonata.
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#590118 - 03/22/05 07:28 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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oh i see. Thanks for clearing that up for me
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#590119 - 03/23/05 04:30 AM Re: Can you name this tune
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 Quote:
Originally posted by pianojerome:
If you can play scales, arpeggios, and Alberti basses, you can play any Mozart Sonata. [/b]
Sure, Sam! The artistry comes in playing them well.
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#590120 - 03/23/05 06:16 AM Re: Can you name this tune
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It's the trills that I find the hardest thing about them

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#590121 - 03/23/05 01:16 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Trills are really hard for me. Not just in getting them up to speed, but really making them sparkle. They have to really sparkle (not spark), otherwise they're just noise.

I also find arpeggios to be quite tough. Are there any particular methods you guys use for practicing arpeggios, aside from just running through them everyday (which I don't do... )?
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#590122 - 03/23/05 01:53 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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Trills are really hard for me. Not just in getting them up to speed, but really making them sparkle. They have to really sparkle (not spark), otherwise they're just noise.

I also find arpeggios to be quite tough. [/b]
Same here.....but then again.... i find almost everything to be tough
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#590123 - 03/24/05 01:37 PM Re: Can you name this tune
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facile (Fr. and It.)

Fasy, fluent.


I guess it's not the word has a different meaning in whatever language it's in, but I was thinking it was in spanish which means "easy".
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