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#1719601 - 07/23/11 09:52 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Horowitz
Rubinstein
Gutierrez
Curzon
Argerich

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#1719630 - 07/23/11 10:37 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Passed Away:

-Liszt
-Horowitz
-Borge
-Chopin
-Czriffa
-Richter, Sviatoslav

Alive:
-MARTHA ARGERICH AHHHHHhahahahaahhhhhhh (girlsqueal)
-Evgeny Kissin
-Li Yundi
-Nobuyuki Tsujii
-Lang Lang
-Valentina Lisitsa isn't bad at all

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#1719663 - 07/23/11 11:37 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Arrau
Ashkenazy
Brendel
Richter
Rubinstein
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#1719677 - 07/24/11 12:07 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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No one has mentioned Clara Schumann.
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#1719703 - 07/24/11 12:36 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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It's so hard for me to pick five, but Alicia de Larrocha has to be one of them.

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#1719707 - 07/24/11 12:40 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Richter
Pollini
Argerich
Brendel
????? (reserved)
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#1719709 - 07/24/11 12:42 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Orange Soda King]
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AngelinaP
Chobeethaninov
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Entheo
......and sorry to the many that I forgot ha

Top 20th century:
1. Horowitz
2. Rubinstein
3. Cliburn
4. Brailowsky
5. Lili Kraus
....with dozens of others close behind.


Edited by Mark_C (07/24/11 01:52 PM)
Edit Reason: category title fixed -- screwed up awful the first time!
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#1719741 - 07/24/11 01:36 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: TsonicTsunami]
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Originally Posted By: TsonicTsunami
Gould
Gould
Gould
Gould
Gould

In that order:)


I agree completely, but you got the order wrong. It should be . . .

Gould
Gould
Gould
Gould
Gould

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#1719746 - 07/24/11 01:50 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
OSK
AngelinaP
Chobeethaninov
Kreisler
Entheo
......and sorry to the many that I forgot ha


Brendan!!!

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#1719769 - 07/24/11 03:00 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
OSK
AngelinaP
Chobeethaninov
Kreisler
Entheo
......and sorry to the many that I forgot ha


Brendan!!!


Koji!!!!!!!!!
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#1719859 - 07/24/11 09:32 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
OSK
AngelinaP
Chobeethaninov
Kreisler
Entheo
......and sorry to the many that I forgot ha


Brendan!!!


Koji!!!!!!!!!


Baris!!!!!!!

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#1719864 - 07/24/11 09:44 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Hmmm...There's gonna be more than five on my list:

Top Five Favorite Young Ones (in no particular order):
Aimi Kobayashi
George Li
Jan Lisiecki
Daria Korotkova
Annie Zhou

Top Six Favorite Old(er) Ones
Evgeny Kissin
Martha Argerich
Mitsuko Uchida
Wibi Soerjadi
Khatia Buniatshivilli
Daniil Trifonov

Top Five Favorite Dead Ones
Vladimir Horowitz
Arthur Rubenstein
Sergei Rachmaninov
Van Cliburn
Alfred Cortot

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#1719868 - 07/24/11 10:05 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Two posters seems to think Van Cliburn is dead?

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#1719886 - 07/24/11 10:45 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Prokofiev
Rachminoff
Brahms
Chopin
Liszt

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Bolet
Arrau
Gutierrez
Argarich

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#1719888 - 07/24/11 10:50 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Two posters seems to think Van Cliburn is dead?
That is hilarious.
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#1719904 - 07/24/11 11:07 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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How can someone's favorite pianist be someone they could never have heard live or on recording (Liszt, Brahms, Chopin, Clara Schumann, etc.)?

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#1719912 - 07/24/11 11:19 AM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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smile Played BY:_____
Bolet
Arrau
Gutierrez
Argarich

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#1719960 - 07/24/11 12:33 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Two posters seems to think Van Cliburn is dead?


LOL I hope Van Cliburn won't see this thread...
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#1719988 - 07/24/11 01:19 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Two posters seems to think Van Cliburn is dead?

Yeah, what kind of crap is that..... shocked

WAIT A MINUTE......my post was one of them!!
Jesus! Obviously I screwed up, wasn't thinking.....I mean, I just said hi to him a few weeks ago....
(post fixed)

After I typed 'Horowitz' and 'Rubinstein,' I flipped into thinking just of the greatest pianists of the last century.

I know that you think I've done some bad posts, and at least in this case I have to agree with you.
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#1719989 - 07/24/11 01:20 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
How can someone's favorite pianist be someone they could never have heard live or on recording (Liszt, Brahms, Chopin, Clara Schumann, etc.)?
You are right of course, but I would love to hear these masters play.

By the way, Brahms wasn't supposed to have been the most stellar pianist.
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#1719998 - 07/24/11 01:48 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: gooddog]
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Originally Posted By: gooddog
....By the way, Brahms wasn't supposed to have been the most stellar pianist.

Yeah -- my impression is that he was quite good at first but then got sloppy.

And we never hear at all about Schubert at the piano, do we....I'd have to guess he was the least accomplished pianist of all the great piano composers.
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#1720015 - 07/24/11 02:24 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: gooddog
....By the way, Brahms wasn't supposed to have been the most stellar pianist.

Yeah -- my impression is that he was quite good at first but then got sloppy.

And we never hear at all about Schubert at the piano, do we....I'd have to guess he was the least accomplished pianist of all the great piano composers.
Isn't there the famous story of his breakdown while performing his own Wanderer Fantasie?

I also wouldn't conclude that great composers for piano were necessarily great pianists. I read the Brahms simplified his own 2nd piano concerto for performances later in life. Enough recordings of Shostakovich exist that are musically fascinating and effective, if not always a little technically sloppy.

-Daniel
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#1720019 - 07/24/11 02:32 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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Oops! I was just thinking about pianists from 20th century and typed Van Cliburn. Nope Van Cliburn certainly is alive and kicking!

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#1720020 - 07/24/11 02:33 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
....I read the Brahms simplified his own 2nd piano concerto for performances later in life....

I think lots of people do -- at least the run in 3rd's near the end of the last mvt..... grin

And BTW if you 'simplify' it well, virtually nobody would notice, or think about it.
I worked on the concerto and played it for my teacher -- and I don't even remember if I 'simplified' that run....but whether or not I did, I sure didn't get all the notes. ha
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#1720021 - 07/24/11 02:35 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: PaulaPiano34]
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Originally Posted By: chobeethaninov
Oops! I was just thinking about pianists from 20th century and typed Van Cliburn. Nope Van Cliburn certainly is alive and kicking!

Exactly what I did....
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#1720030 - 07/24/11 03:05 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Ridicolosamente]
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Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Isn't there the famous story of his breakdown while performing his own Wanderer Fantasie?

I also wouldn't conclude that great composers for piano were necessarily great pianists. I read the Brahms simplified his own 2nd piano concerto for performances later in life. Enough recordings of Shostakovich exist that are musically fascinating and effective, if not always a little technically sloppy.

-Daniel
I believe Schubert didn't play his Wanderer Fantasy because of its difficulty as opposed to having a breakdown while performing it.

Brahms, from everything I've read was an excellent pianist early in life if perhaps not a great one. Shostakovitch was a child prodigy.

Virtually all the greatest composers for piano/other keyboard were excellent and often world class pianists/other keyboardists with the probable exception of Schubert.

The lists below are my personal opinion, but I doubt many would disagree with much of the first list. If I left a composer out it may be because I don't know about their pianistic'keyboard skill(Scarlatti, Haydn, Handel, etc.).

World Class Composer and World Class Pianist: Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Bartok, Prokofiev, Rachmaninov, Medtner, Scriabin

World Class composer and Excellent Pianists:Schumann, Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Albeniz.

Great Pianists but perhaps among the greatest composers:Clementi, Alkan, Moszkowski, Busoni, Godowsky, Rzewski, Franck, Messiaen, Gershwin, Ignaz Friedman.



Edited by pianoloverus (07/24/11 03:09 PM)

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#1720062 - 07/24/11 04:11 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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My current favorites (subject to change)

-- Emil Gilels
-- Murray Perahia
-- Evgeny Kissin
-- Arthur Rubinstein
-- ??
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#1720064 - 07/24/11 04:14 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Ridicolosamente
Isn't there the famous story of his breakdown while performing his own Wanderer Fantasie?

I also wouldn't conclude that great composers for piano were necessarily great pianists. I read the Brahms simplified his own 2nd piano concerto for performances later in life. Enough recordings of Shostakovich exist that are musically fascinating and effective, if not always a little technically sloppy.

-Daniel
I believe Schubert didn't play his Wanderer Fantasy because of its difficulty as opposed to having a breakdown while performing it.

Brahms, from everything I've read was an excellent pianist early in life if perhaps not a great one. Shostakovitch was a child prodigy.

Virtually all the greatest composers for piano/other keyboard were excellent and often world class pianists/other keyboardists with the probable exception of Schubert.

The lists below are my personal opinion, but I doubt many would disagree with much of the first list. If I left a composer out it may be because I don't know about their pianistic'keyboard skill(Scarlatti, Haydn, Handel, etc.).

World Class Composer and World Class Pianist: Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Bartok, Prokofiev, Rachmaninov, Medtner, Scriabin

World Class composer and Excellent Pianists:Schumann, Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Albeniz.

Great Pianists but perhaps among the greatest composers:Clementi, Alkan, Moszkowski, Busoni, Godowsky, Rzewski, Franck, Messiaen, Gershwin, Ignaz Friedman.



don't forget Saint-Saens! He was apparently not only an extremely good pianist but one of the greatest sight-readers ever, maybe even on a par with Liszt. As well as an all-around accomplished prodigy in a number of fields.

Sophia

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#1720085 - 07/24/11 04:52 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: Wilson Frazão]
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(recorded musicians only)
1) Nobuyuki Tsujii
2) Yundi Li
3) Evgeny Kissin
4) Martha Argerich
5) Rachmaninoff

Honorable Mentions:
Olga Kern and Marc Andre Hamelin

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#1720149 - 07/24/11 06:57 PM Re: Your Top 5 Pianists! [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus

Brahms, from everything I've read was an excellent pianist early in life if perhaps not a great one. Shostakovitch was a child prodigy.

Virtually all the greatest composers for piano/other keyboard were excellent and often world class pianists/other keyboardists with the probable exception of Schubert.

The lists below are my personal opinion, but I doubt many would disagree with much of the first list. If I left a composer out it may be because I don't know about their pianistic'keyboard skill(Scarlatti, Haydn, Handel, etc.).

World Class Composer and World Class Pianist: Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Bartok, Prokofiev, Rachmaninov, Medtner, Scriabin

World Class composer and Excellent Pianists:Schumann, Brahms, Debussy, Ravel, Albeniz.

Great Pianists but perhaps among the greatest composers:Clementi, Alkan, Moszkowski, Busoni, Godowsky, Rzewski, Franck, Messiaen, Gershwin, Ignaz Friedman.


I don't disagree with any of this. You are spot on.
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