Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Pianoteq
Latest Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#600221 - 06/06/06 02:44 PM The Problem with Slow Movements
Josh Bish Offline
Full Member

Registered: 02/08/06
Posts: 100
Loc: England
I get bored! I know it's terrible, but most of the time I get bored halfway through the slow movements of Sonatas and Concertos and skip to the next movement. I am a bad person \:\(

I have no problem with playing slow pieces but when I'm listening to them I just lose interest so easily. I know I'm missing out on alot of good music, but I just can't keep my interest as I can with the outer movements. Does anyone else find this?
_________________________
"If there is anyone here whom I have not insulted, I beg his pardon." - Brahms

Top
(ad) Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#600222 - 06/06/06 03:56 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
Contrapunctus Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/08/05
Posts: 808
Loc: Whittier, California
I'm like that unless the performer is really good, or if the movement/piece is something I play/ have played.
_________________________
I don't know what the meaning of life is- I'm too busy to figure it out.

Top
#600223 - 06/06/06 04:18 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
concertpianist12988 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/24/04
Posts: 343
Loc: NY
same here..... like for example, i played beethovens pathetique sonata but skipped the second movement. it is very nice listening to it but i just wanted something more "fun".
_________________________
Yundi Li (http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/play.htms?LINK=rtsp://ra.universal-music-group.com/dgg/yundiLi-liszt-W-COVER.rm)

Top
#600224 - 06/06/06 05:25 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
lol_nl Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 918
Loc: Ede, Netherlands
This was what I thought the first time I heard classical sonatas. But now I'm not bored at all when I listen to the slow movements. I just listened to some Schubert and when I listened to Beethoven again, it seemed much more interesting.
_________________________
Yiteng

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.

Top
#600225 - 06/06/06 06:59 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
Silent Thoughts Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/30/05
Posts: 314
I think listening to music requires just as much concentration as performing it. And just like performing, it requires some practice to get good at it. I really started getting into classical music about five years ago, but it took at least three or four years to be able to really get something out of slow movements.

But don't blame it all on yourself - there are indeed some slow movements that are just plain boring, just as there are fast movements which are trite. Don't get discouraged - just keep listening to music and eventually you'll be able to enjoy it more. Like most of the better things in life it's an acquired taste.

Top
#600226 - 06/06/06 07:21 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
evert Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 11
Loc: Amsterdam
I would think this is a matter of temperament and mood.
I experience the oppisite. I like the fun of fast movements but that's where the struggle with technique begins - at least for me \:\(
What I find really difficult is playing a 'slow movement' even so fast enough so that it will flow.

Top
#600227 - 06/06/06 08:53 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
Derulux Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 5066
Loc: Philadelphia
I would think this is a matter of temperament and mood.[/b]
For me, it most certainly is. Sometimes I am in the mood, and other times I am not. I adjust my playlist accordingly. ;\)
_________________________
Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.

Top
#600228 - 06/07/06 03:55 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
Contrapunctus Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/08/05
Posts: 808
Loc: Whittier, California
 Quote:
Originally posted by lol_nl:
This was what I thought the first time I heard classical sonatas. But now I'm not bored at all when I listen to the slow movements. I just listened to some Schubert and when I listened to Beethoven again, it seemed much more interesting. [/b]
Ah! That is because Schubert sonatas are way more long- winded than Beethoven! They take a longer time to acquire a taste for.


Evert- I used to be like that until I got a different teacher. She pointed out everywhere where I paused on the fast movements or where the slow movements started dragging. I would practice around the areas she told me, and, well, it just fixed up like magic. Well, she's an awesome teacher.
_________________________
I don't know what the meaning of life is- I'm too busy to figure it out.

Top
#600229 - 06/07/06 04:31 PM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
prokofiev Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/20/05
Posts: 388
Loc: California
 Quote:
Originally posted by Josh Bish:
I get bored! I know it's terrible, but most of the time I get bored halfway through the slow movements of Sonatas and Concertos and skip to the next movement. I am a bad person \:\(

I have no problem with playing slow pieces but when I'm listening to them I just lose interest so easily. I know I'm missing out on alot of good music, but I just can't keep my interest as I can with the outer movements. Does anyone else find this? [/b]
How about the slow parts of fast movements and fast parts of slow movements? Even some fast movements get me bored, but slow movements could be very interesting.

As Silent Omen mentioned, some slow movements are truly boring though. I guess that depends on taste too.
_________________________
prok

Top
#600230 - 06/08/06 12:03 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
devils4ever Offline
Full Member

Registered: 04/12/04
Posts: 477
Loc: northwest NJ
I feel the opposite. I love the slow movements. You can actually hear the notes, chords, structure better.

Maybe I'm a romantic at heart, but I can and do listen to the slow movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, Hammerklavier over and over again. In fact, today on the way into and out of work I was listening intently to Hammerklavier's slow movement. I must have repeated it 5 times at least.
_________________________
"Applaud friends, the comedy is over." --Ludwig van Beethoven on his deathbed.
August Förster 190 Artcase

Top
#600231 - 06/08/06 02:38 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
C.V. Alkan Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 827
Loc: Denver, Colorado
I don't find the fast movements nearly as satisfying without the slow movements to contrast. They feel like an integral part of the piece. How about, for example, the Rachaninoff Concertos? The outer movements of the any of his concertos wouldn' feel as powerful without the inner movements to provide the listener a break and give a conctrasting thought and emotion.
_________________________
- Zack -

Top
#600232 - 06/08/06 06:17 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
Josh Bish Offline
Full Member

Registered: 02/08/06
Posts: 100
Loc: England
You've certainly given me some food for thought and I will definitely give slow movements another chance. I didn't think of it in terms of providing a contrast, I knew it did but I didn't think of it that way.....if you know what I mean?
_________________________
"If there is anyone here whom I have not insulted, I beg his pardon." - Brahms

Top
#600233 - 06/08/06 10:43 AM Re: The Problem with Slow Movements
lol_nl Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 918
Loc: Ede, Netherlands
 Quote:
Originally posted by devils4ever:
I feel the opposite. I love the slow movements. You can actually hear the notes, chords, structure better.

Maybe I'm a romantic at heart, but I can and do listen to the slow movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, Hammerklavier over and over again. In fact, today on the way into and out of work I was listening intently to Hammerklavier's slow movement. I must have repeated it 5 times at least. [/b]
Actually I've turned into such a person as well. But this is only playing piano, and not listening. I can listen to anything, but if I have to play a fast piece, I'm too often struggling with the difficult passages while working on a slow piece I have the feeling I can spend all my time working on playing it REALLY well.
_________________________
Yiteng

"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is never enough for music."
-Sergei Rachmaninoff.

Top

Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
What's Hot!!
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Download & Print Sheet Music Instantly
sheet music search
sheet music search

sheet music search
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
117 registered (ando, Almaviva, accordeur, 31 invisible), 1524 Guests and 24 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
74223 Members
42 Forums
153537 Topics
2250024 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
New Topics - Multiple Forums
What is the strangest thing you have found inside a piano?
by That Tooner
28 minutes 31 seconds ago
Kawai vs Ritmuller
by cromax
38 minutes 39 seconds ago
Considering going into debt for a Steinway grand
by joonsang
Today at 10:38 PM
Best Glue for Damper Pads
by JMichaelWilson
Today at 10:07 PM
Went to the store and tried out lots of DPs
by lang15
Today at 09:18 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission