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#603719 - 07/12/02 02:23 PM What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
CherryCoke Offline
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I'm still pretty new here, so I guess I'm still kinda trying to get to know everyone here a bit. What are your current projects, and what are some things you hope to start working on soon?

What I'm working on now:

Beethoven-Pathetique Sonata (C Minor)
Rachmaninov-Prelude in E-Flat Major
Bach-Prelude And Fugue in D Minor (book 1 of WTC)
Brahms-Intermezzo in A Major (Op 118 no 2)

I'm also keeping the Schubert Imromptu in E flat, Chopin Etude in C Minor (revolutionary) and Bach P&F in F# Major under my fingers a bit-my teacher wants me to perform them soon (which frankly, I'm sick of performing them).

Soon, I hope to be working on:

Liszt-Un Sospirro (how do you spell that?)
Prokofiev-Diabolical Suggestion
Rachmaninov-Prelude in G Minor (I know, everybody does it, but still)
Chopin Scherzo in B minor
Chopin Ballade in G Minor
Beethoven-Waldstein Sonata

Not all at once, obviously, but it's still stuff I want to play soon enough.

Ok, your turn! This is a cool board so far, by the way. \:\)

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#603720 - 07/12/02 03:04 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
sandman Offline
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Bach - partita #4
Chopin Ballad # 1
Chopin Noctun e-flat major op55#2
Scriabin - etude op. 8 #12
Scriabin - etude op 43 #5

and im also keeping the bach p/f in F#major under my fingers...its one ive always liked a lot even though its not the most complex or deepest one, it has a nice light character to it that i think is very endearing...it could almost be cute depending on how your play it.

future projects...they'd have to be quite a bit in the future...

Scriabin - Vers La Flamme
Ravel - jeux d'eaux
Beethoven - Op. 111

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#603721 - 07/12/02 03:14 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I am working on

Beethoven - Bagatelle op. 119, no.1
Mendelssohn - Venetian boat song
Beethoven - Sonata Pathetique

I should be able to finish the bagatelle and the venetian boat song in about a month!
The beethoven I have no idea when I will finish!
Right after I finish the bagetelle and Venetian boat song I will learn:

Rachmaninoff - prelude C# minor
Bach - 2 part invention 13 a-
Brahms - Rapsody Op.79 N.2 ( I love this piece!!)

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#603722 - 07/12/02 03:16 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
ryan Offline
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Bach Italian Concerto
Beethoven Op. 53 Sonata
Brahms Op. 118 Piano Pieces (complete)
Chopin Op. 20 and 31 Scherzi

After I polish these up a bit more, I am planning on adding Chopin's Op. 39 and 54 Scherzi to round out the set.

Ryan

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#603723 - 07/12/02 04:15 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
CherryCoke Offline
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Classical Player[/b], which Venetian Boat Song are you working on? I've played two of them, but I don't recollect ever even reading the third one.

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#603724 - 07/12/02 04:24 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Elaine617 Offline
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Due to time constraints, I'm only working on one piece:

1. Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, Molto Vivace (Peters Edition - Klavier/Piano)

Lyn

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#603725 - 07/12/02 04:37 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I am working on Chopin etudes
Op10#12
Op25#1
Op25#2
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#603726 - 07/12/02 04:45 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
StanSteel Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by ryan:
Bach Italian Concerto
Beethoven Op. 53 Sonata
Brahms Op. 118 Piano Pieces (complete)
Chopin Op. 20 and 31 Scherzi

After I polish these up a bit more, I am planning on adding Chopin's Op. 39 and 54 Scherzi to round out the set.

Ryan[/b]
I love the Op20 Scherzo. It's a piece that I want to learn in the future.
How would you rate it's difficulty compared to the others. What would be the order of these scherzi from the least to the most difficult?
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#603727 - 07/12/02 04:49 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Brahms, Concerto #2
Messiaen, Quartet for the End of Time

Fortunately, the Brahms isn't as hard as it is long for the most part. It's the type of piece where if you plan on practicing it for four hours, you will spend two of those hours working on 5-10 measures.

I've gotta pick up some solo pieces for my Jury in fall - I was thinking of some more Messiaen and maybe the Bach E minor toccata.
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#603728 - 07/12/02 04:53 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Classical Player, which Venetian Boat Song are you working on? I've played two of them, but I don't recollect ever even reading the third one. [/b]

Sorry its Op.30, No. 6 in F# -
Its a really lovely piece!

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#603729 - 07/12/02 04:55 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Nina Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Brendan:
[QB]Brahms, Concerto #2
Messsiaen, Quartet for the End of Time
QB]
Good luck on the Messaien... I can't even spell it, much less play it. One of my faves.

Nina

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#603730 - 07/12/02 04:59 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Nina Offline
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It's summertime, so I'm goofing off with no "heavy" items in my play list...

My real focus is on:

Brahms Op. 117 Intermezzi (complete)
Haydn Sonata in e minor Hob XVI:34

Also goofing around with:
Ashokan Farewell (thanks for the tip,Jodi!)
A few Disney pieces

And noodling on Moussorgsky's Pix at an Exhibition. Not sure if this will really hold my interest long enough to put it on my study list, but I'm having a blast playing it now and enjoying my new piano's performance on the bass lines... really fun, although my solo performances around the house by myself are pretty far over the top. \:D

Great stress release!

For the fall when kids go back to school, I'd like to pick up a few more pieces, but don't have a clue. Any ideas out there, based on my current stuff? (I'd say I'm full-out to my highest capability on something like LvB's Pathetique, FWIW.)

Thanks!
Nina

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#603731 - 07/12/02 05:34 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
April Offline
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I've got a pretty light load this summer...I'm working on:

1. A Mark Hayes arrangement of "Song for the Nations"

2. Schumann's "Almost too Serious" (No. 10 from Scenes From Childhood)

3. Mozart's A Major Sonata K. 331 - right now just the variations, working backward from #6 ;\)

April

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#603732 - 07/12/02 05:45 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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You previous posters intimidate me!

Like Nina, I thank Jodi on the Ashokan Farewell suggestion. That and Mozart Fantasia in Dm are the summer projects. That and trying to take in more theory, which just seems to escape me...

I skim thru an edition of Shubert dances for sight reading practice and my 12 year old son and I are working on two Robert Vandall duets.

After school begins again and my youngest enters school, I hope to work on a Mozart Sonata and would love to do some Brahms.
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#603733 - 07/12/02 05:50 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Hi all - pieces I'm working on at the moment:

Rachmaninov Piano Sonata No.1
Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso
Prokofiev Toccata

Playing some Rach preludes on the side, but the above are keeping my fingers VERY busy for now...

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#603734 - 07/12/02 06:09 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Loc: Weatherford, Texas
Currently studying:

Bach 2 part Inventions
Mozart K576 Sonata
Beethoven Op.27, No.2 Sonata
Chopin Etudes Op.10, No.12 and Op.25. No.1
5 Rachmaninoff Preludes
Poulenc Toccata
The complete music of 1 of my teachers (Actually this is an ongoing process that I've been doing for several years and will be doing for several more)

Future Works:

Whichever is given to me by my professor. I may finish some works that I started a while ago, such as the Chopin 1st Scherzo, 1st Ballade or Fantasy in F minor, Schumann Scenes from Childhood, or Balakirev's Islamey.

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#603735 - 07/12/02 06:17 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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hey classical player, i think we have similar taste. I am working on almost the same line-up of pieces. what are some of the pieces you would like to someday play but right now you consider them out of your league ?
I'm thinking of rach prelude Gminor, Beethoven Waldstein, Tempest sonatas, Weber Invitation to a Dance
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#603736 - 07/12/02 06:31 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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StanSteel, I am not sure how I would rate Op. 20 against the other Scherzi. They each have their own unique technical problems that you have to solve, so in that respect I would tend to rate them pretty equally. I have heard people say that Op. 31 is easier than the others, and it does tend to get played more often. However, I think it's difficulty depends on how you play it. Same with the others.

Sorry I don't have a better answer. Part of the problem is that I have played a lot of Chopin, so I was actually able to to learn these pretty quickly - Op. 20 took two weeks and Op. 31 took two, working on them part time. Of course, the polishing process took much longer and is still continuing \:\)

Ryan

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#603737 - 07/12/02 08:23 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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hey classical player, i think we have similar taste. I am working on almost the same line-up of pieces. what are some of the pieces you would like to someday play but right now you consider them out of your league ?[/b]

Hi!

Yes I also wanted to learn Beethovens Waldstein.
I was thinking more Chopin, maybe some of his etudes!
Also liszt hungarian rapsody N.2..
And I was going to learn Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto in a year or 2!

But after I finish all of the pieces I listed above in my previous post, I will either learn Bach's keyboard concerto N.5, or Mozarts piano concerto 21.....

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#603738 - 07/12/02 08:44 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Loc: New York
What I'm working on right now:

Beethoven Piano Sonata Opus 10 Number 3

Mendelssohn Rondo Capriccioso

Bach Prelude and Fugue in C major from Book II of the Well-Tempered Clavier

Chopin Polonaise Opus 44

What I hope to work on one day:

Beethoven Piano Sonata Opus 53 (has been my goal since I was twelve.)

Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Opus 61

Beethoven Piano Sonata Opus 111 (one day...)

Liszt Benediction of God in Solitude

Ravel Gaspard de la Nuit (one day...)

Liszt Totentanz

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#603739 - 07/12/02 09:13 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
mkesfahani Offline
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Loc: Irvine, CA
I guess pieces that I work on fall into 3 categories:

What I can currently play...

Chopin-Nocturne in EbM, op.9
Rachmaninoff-Prelude in C#m, Gm, and Am
Debussy-Prelude and Sarabande from Pour Le Piano

What I'm currently working on...

Bach-P&F in Dm, WTC1
Debussy-Toccata from Pour Le Piano
Chopin-Waltz in C#m op.64, Preludes in GM and Gm.
Schubert-Moment Musicaux No. 3 in Fm.
Liszt-Concert Etude No. 3 in Db (Un Sospiro)
Mozart-Sonata K331 and Concerto No. 21

What I plan on working on...

Rachmaninoff-Etudes-Tableaux in EbM and Am (op.39-4)
Liszt-Hungarian Rhapsody No. 6 (pray for me ;\) )
Beethoven-Piano Concerto No. 5

I guess I have a lot of time on my hands...

Mike

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#603740 - 07/12/02 10:18 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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What i am working on now:
Chopin Scherzo in C-sharp minor op. 39
Bach English Suite 5
Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableux op.33 no.4
Rachmaninoff piano concerto #2
Liszt Paganin variations etude

I hope to have these done by the end of the summer so that i can play them for my prof come fall.
I would like to work on next:
Prokofiev toccata
Prokofiev piano concerto #1
Rachmaninoff Chopin variations
Something else Bach.
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#603741 - 07/12/02 11:54 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
aznxk3vi17 Offline
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Let's see...

Polish up Ondine from Gaspard de la nuit by Ravel

Scarbo (yeah right)

Fantasie in F minor by Chopin

Berceuse by Chopin

I want to see something by Messaien. I've never seen any of his works, and by what Brendan has raved about, I want a piece of it too! ^.^ Although, I don't know if I'm capable...

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#603742 - 07/13/02 12:00 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Aaron Offline
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Nina- I sang at a Diamondbacks game! (I just noticed the "Go Diamondbacks" at the bottom of your post). It was just a spring training game, so you might not have been there, but still. It was fun. \:\)

Anyway, pieces that I'm working on:
- Prokofiev: Impulse (Op. 4 no. 2)
- A Haydn Sonata (It's in F major. I don't know any other classification, but I like it alot!)
- Chopin: Ballade no. 1 (One of my favorite piano pieces ever!)

Hope to work on:
- Debussy: Masques
- Chopin: Sonata no. 1 (all of it.)
- Prokofiev: Sonata in A minor.
- A piano concerto. I don't have any particular one picked out. Maybe a Beethoven or a Mozart since everything else I've listed is more recent (as in after the Classical period). The only concertos I'm well familiar with are Prokofiev 1 and 3, and Shostakovich 2.
- Barber: Excursions. (Just for fun. \:\) )
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#603743 - 07/13/02 12:41 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
magnezium Offline
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working on:
Schubert: D. 946 (complete)
Schubert: D. 935 No. 3
Ravel: Jeux d'Eau

will work on:
Beethoven: Op. 53
Ravel: Une Barque sur l'Ocean
Brahms: 2 Rhapsodies, Op. 79
Debussy: L'isle joyeuse

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#603744 - 07/13/02 12:54 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
MD Offline
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working on:
chopin scherzo op. 39, liszt 'un sospiro', a few bach prelude and fugues, and putting the finishing touches on the debussy pour le piano suite.

as for the order of difficulty of chopin's 4 scherzi, and of course it will be different for each individual, i find the c# and b minor (1 and 3) considerably more difficult than the b-flat and e-major. but that's just me...

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#603745 - 07/13/02 01:10 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Hi there!

Right now, I am working on the following:

Chopin's Etude no. 10, op. 25
Chopin's "Revolutionary" Etude
Gershwin's Prelude no. 3
Rachmaninoff's "W.R.'s Polka"
Liszt's Campanella
Mozart's Sonata K.330
Brahms's Fantasies op. 116

and much more! What I wish to work on are these:

Rachmaninoff's Prelude in G minor
Gershwin's 1st and 2nd Prelude
Mozart's 21st concerto
and finally, Rachmaninoff's Concerto no. 4 and 2! \:\) \:\)
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#603746 - 07/13/02 02:54 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by MD:
working on:
chopin scherzo op. 39, liszt 'un sospiro', a few bach prelude and fugues, and putting the finishing touches on the debussy pour le piano suite.[/b]
Wow, for a second I thought I was reading my own post. Not many people are familiar with Debussy's Pour Le Piano suite, but I think it's a masterpiece. The Toccata is one of the most beautiful pieces I've ever heard for piano and easily the hardest piece I've ever tried. What do you think of it MD? Do you think I'm just exaggerating the technical challenges? Quite frankly, I feel that if I can master the Toccata, I can play even some of the most virtuosic repetoire. I'd like to get feedback from someone who has actually tried it.

Thanks,
Mike

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#603747 - 07/13/02 04:57 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I'm actually working on 2 Bach Preludes in C, one from WTC and the other from 12 Little Preludes. I'm also going to start on Fantasy Impromptu Op 66.

My dream would be Beethoven's Piano Sonata 8. Not to mention Moonlight Sonata, and Mozart's Rondo from Eine Kleine Nachtmusik.
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#603748 - 07/13/02 10:24 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Does anyone else here believe in quality, not quantity? Just noticed that some people are listing 5-8 works in their current practice routine.
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#603749 - 07/13/02 10:52 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Yes Brendan, I believe in that notion too... however, you can't blame them for wanting to play many pieces... the summer opens up schedules (unless you work) like no other time. Perhaps they want to get the most out of it.

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#603750 - 07/13/02 10:58 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Nina Offline
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Brendan:

For me, not sure if it's a quality v quality thing, unless we're talking about concentration and brainpower. I can really only *work* (as opposed to hack around) on maybe 3 pieces at a time. More than that and I lose focus, much less time, and never really get the piece under my belt.

I also have never been the type to put in 5-6 hours playing a day, which I assume some of these folks are doing. (I find that just keeping my Sims happy takes up a significant amount of my free time... :p )

Nina

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#603751 - 07/13/02 10:59 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Nina Offline
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Aaron:

That's neat! I would love to be able to sing.

Were you in Tucson or up in Phoenix?

One of my nephews is an assistant something-or-other for woman's volleyball at Purdue, and frequently sings the national anthem before their games. If I had to do something like that, I think I would pass out.

My nephew does it because he thinks it makes him a "chick magnet."

Nina

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#603752 - 07/13/02 11:13 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Aaron Offline
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Nina- I really don't know where it was we sang. (There were ten of us, and a djembe player. \:\) someone else was driving.) The stadium wasn't very big, and it was at whatever site the Diamondbacks and the Brewers (is it Brewers?) do their spring training, so I assume it was Tucson. The rest of the week we were in Pheonix.
We sang it in four instead of three. It was kind of weird, but received very well. \:\) A few people made it a point to come find us and tell us that they enjoyed it. That was nice. \:\) I don't think I would EVER sing the National Anthem by myself. My voice sounds terrible solo!! (but it works for choir. My voice is mellow, and blends well.)

But back to piano! \:\)
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#603753 - 07/13/02 12:29 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Brendan:
Some pianists are different than others. For me, i get about 5 hours of practice time a day, so i have the time to work on more than 2 pieces.
Also, don't forget, that some, like me, are music majors, and i have major recitals coming in the fall for which i need quite a few pieces. I don't have the luxury to just work on one or two pieces for a couple of months.
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#603754 - 07/13/02 12:44 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Brendan Offline



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 Quote:
Originally posted by PianoMuse:
Brendan:
Some pianists are different than others. For me, i get about 5 hours of practice time a day, so i have the time to work on more than 2 pieces.
Also, don't forget, that some, like me, are music majors, and i have major recitals coming in the fall for which i need quite a few pieces. I don't have the luxury to just work on one or two pieces for a couple of months.[/b]
You make it sound like Brahms #2 is an easy piece that I can just tinker around with every now and then. I have to have the whole concerto ready by October for competitions beginning in November and going through April. Chock that on top of my regular barrage of 8-12 chamber music and solo recitals...

My point was that I find it difficult to really focus on something and yield the best quality product if I'm tryinig to fit in that many works in a regular practice session. Ideally, one should get to the point where you don't need to practice so much on technique and learning the notes but instead be able to quickly draw out repertoire and solve technical problems in a sitting - all because of focus.
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#603755 - 07/13/02 02:17 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I took up piano lessons 6 months ago after a hiatus of 15 years, so I am (was) playing a lot of exercises to rebuild my technique.

What I am working on:
Nothing. I hurt my right wrist 3 weeks ago \:\( , but there has been no hint of recovery, despite my immobolizing it. Th earliest appointment I can get with a rheumatologist is end July.

What I was working on before hurting my wrist:
1. Schmitt: Preparatory exercises, Op.16
2. Hanon (I am having slight problems with left-hand rotation and speed)
3. Czerny: Art of finger dexterity, Op.740
4. Czerny: Studies for left hand, Op.399
5. Bach: Prelude & Fugue in F minor, WTC1
6. Beethoven: Sonata Op.2, No.3
7. Debussy: Suite Bergamasque

What I hope to work on soon:
The quick and full recovery of my wrist so I can play again!

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#603756 - 07/13/02 02:31 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603757 - 07/13/02 04:33 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by jeffylube:
No Brendan, NO ONE believes in quality playing. Trust me, I took a poll, and they all said that they would rather play more pieces in a crappy way, than a few in a high quality way.
[/b]

What an astute observation! Thanks also for putting sarcasm in my question when there was none even there in the first place - you win!

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You're right, you probably do find it difficult to focus on something and yield the best quality product if you're trying to fit in that many works in a regular practice session.[/b]
You know what, if you're going to take such elaborate measures to flame me, why don't you quit wasting your time and actually read my posts. I had said that I felt that concentrating on fewer pieces would give me more time to perfect what I am working on instead of spreading myself too thin. You may find it necessary to hack away at seven things at once, but I avoid it whenever possible. But hey, like you so articulately said:

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...that's your personal opinion. Not everyone is like you.
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Thank you very much for the important life lesson.



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#603758 - 07/13/02 05:07 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603759 - 07/13/02 05:21 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by Brendan:
Does anyone else here believe in quality, not quantity? Just noticed that some people are listing 5-8 works in their current practice routine.[/b]
Maybe you should simply embrace the fact that others are better than you, Brendon. This is nothing to be ashamed of, but it's certainly no reason to lash out at others. I understand that it can be embarassing when you arent able to handle as much as your peers, but remember - this isn't a contest. This is just a place for all of us to share our thoughts and experiences.

I'm sure if you keep practicing you'll be able to handle 5-8 pieces in no time. Keep up the good work, son.

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#603760 - 07/13/02 06:44 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Actually, I thought Brendan had a good point. I thought the same thing. I for one don't have as much success when I spread myself too thin. I have much more success when I focus on a couple of pieces at a time. For me, having more time and no deadline doesn't help when I take on too much. I tried to learn 10 pieces at the same time once, and I kept bouncing around between them and never made any progress. When I changed tactics and really focused on one or two pieces at a time, the learning process went much, much faster.

I did not learn the pieces that I listed above at the same time. I learned the Bach first, then half of the Brahms, then the Beethoven, then the Chopin Op. 31, then the rest of the Brahms, and finally Chopin's Op. 20. I had learned the Beethoven several years ago, but was never happy with it. This time I am much more satisfied with it. I guess the key for me is to focus on a few pieces at a time until I learn them.

But, maybe when I am as good as Der Spion I will be able to tackle more pieces at the same time. /sarcasm

RE the Chopin Op. 20 Scherzo - I did not find this more difficult than Op. 31. Well, it is more difficult technically. But, Op. 20 has a lot of repetition so that you really only have to learn about 5 pages of music. The technical difficulties in Op. 20 are solvable if you use the proper hand motions and a lot of repetition. When you get it learned, however, it almost plays itself.

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#603761 - 07/13/02 06:49 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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One more thought on quality vs. quantity - if quality is not a goal then why bother? Sometimes it seems as if our microwave culture can't stick with anything long enough or focused enough to produce quality. Even if one's goals do not include public performance, I believe that the idea of quality over quantity is worth some consideration...

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#603762 - 07/13/02 06:57 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603763 - 07/13/02 07:28 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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RE: Quality vs. quantity. I too find it helpful to focus on no more than a few things at a time --but this doesn't mean, if you need some variety, that can't keep busy reading over new things and shaking the dust off older ones (or things that, for one reason or another, needed to be set aside for awhile).

This summer I'm playing, or better noodling, over some Chopin after a long break from his music. Mainly though, I'm grooming older stuff for use this fall: Crumb's "A little suite for Christmas", Schumman's "Davidsbundler ". New stuff: working on Rzewski's "Mayn Yingele" - You can find the score online here [wish more composers were supportive of the copyleft movement].

Cheers, N
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#603764 - 07/13/02 07:50 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I think PianoMuse[/b] summed it up by saying it differs from pianist to pianist. Even with much practice time (for the last few weeks, about 6 hrs+ daily was required of me), sometimes quality can suffer with some pianists, others not. I think the question of "how much is too much" can only be answered by each individual experimenting for themselves. I am one who can only take on so much repitoire at once, I tackled about 8 pieces at once when I was at Indiana University, and even with 6 hrs of practice daily, it was too much for me to keep up with.

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#603765 - 07/13/02 09:04 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Ryan said it best. Yes, I listed many pieces that I am currently working on, but for example, the Mozart concerto I've played about 2 pages worth whereas the Debussy Toccata I spend an hour a day on. As that gets perfected, it goes into my "forever in my repetoire" list and out of regular practice rotation. Then, I will spend more time on the Mozart.

I feel that if I work on two pieces at a time, I may be able to learn them quicker, but I'd feel I'm not progressing very much as a pianist. I have to look at new music every day and have to challenge myself for the level that I am. I've followed Brendan's posts and from what I've read, I think he's a great pianist and maybe when I reach that level, I wouldn't have this sort of regimen (sp?). In any case, we are all different and I don't think Brendan meant any harm in his statement.

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#603766 - 07/13/02 11:46 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by Der Spion:
Maybe you should simply embrace the fact that others are better than you, Brendon. This is nothing to be ashamed of, but it's certainly no reason to lash out at others. I understand that it can be embarassing when you arent able to handle as much as your peers, but remember - this isn't a contest. This is just a place for all of us to share our thoughts and experiences.

I'm sure if you keep practicing you'll be able to handle 5-8 pieces in no time. Keep up the good work, son.[/b]
Congratulations to the troll who was brave enough to register a monaker for the sole purpose of making that post. Bravo on your poor use of the German language also!

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originally posted by jiffylube
My point was that Brendan was making it sound like just because people don't work on pieces like he does than they can't produce quality music.[/b]
That's very interesting that you would draw that conclusion considering the fact that I never mentioned anything in this thread about the "quality" of the pieces that any who listed their repertoire. Try listening instead of waiting to talk.

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He's not being open to the fact that everyone is different and have different cirumstances. But the majority most likely play for fun, and are not anal about making the music sound "professional".
[/b]

Maybe because it puts food on my table I should worry about playing my best, no? But wait - because I'm a "professional" I shouldn't even enjoy the music, right? Exactly. That's why I've stuck with it for so long and invested so much time into it.

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I agree that Brendan probably can't work on more than a couple of pieces at one time. That's because of the level music he's studying, PLUS he has a deadline.[/b]
That's right. I can't work on more than two pieces at a time, even though I was working on the first half of Vingt Regards and the Liszt Sonata last month. Even though I can't do it, I somehow managed to recital 7 of the Messiaen pieces plus the Liszt.

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But for those that don't have a deadline, like the most of the users that are probably on this forum, they can probably take their time with a fairly large group of music (most of it less demanding than the Brahms 2nd) and end up with quality work at a little bit later date than if they were only working on a couple of pieces.
[/b]

Let's take a look at some of the music that was offered:

Rachmaninov #2 and First Sonata
Brahms op. 116
Chopin F# minor Polonaise and various Scherzi
Various Liszt etudes

Of the repertoire listed, most of it was stated by people who are either music students or who have extensive performing experience. I would wager a guess that they are also working under a deadline of sorts. Why don't you ask them? I personally don't practice in limbo, but try to work towards goals. That was my point all along - doing your best to play your best, but somehow you managed to imbue my posts with something that simply wasn't there.
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#603767 - 07/14/02 12:34 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Re: deadlines.

I will be starting college in the fall. (I'm oh so excited about being a freshman again!) So while the music I'm playing right now (Chopin Ballade 1, Haydn Sonata, Prokofiev op.4 no.2) has no real "deadline" that I have to meet, I've set a deadline for myself. I want to have them near performance quality before I enter college (August 24th). I know that my new teacher will assign totally new pieces, most of them Baroque and early Classical, so I want to get my current pieces out of the way. I only have one more lesson with my current teacher, which means I have a couple weeks to be able to roughly play every bit of the pieces (which I can) so she can give me the suggestions/directions/movements I need to finish them.

So anyway, to be short about it: I'm not a professional, and I don't have a strict deadline for performance, but I do have a deadline of sorts.

Lastly, this is such a stupid thing to argue about. I seriously doubt that Brendan meant anything spiteful. He just told his own experiences and what works best for him, not saying that his way is the only way. Grow up.
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#603768 - 07/14/02 01:14 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Aaron:
Lastly, this is such a stupid thing to argue about. I seriously doubt that Brendan meant anything spiteful. He just told his own experiences and what works best for him, not saying that his way is the only way. Grow up.[/b]
I agree. Don't let this turn into that other forum ;\) .

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#603769 - 07/14/02 01:57 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Mike,
I too am surprised at how pour le piano never seems to come up on topics on debussy...but it really is a masterpiece, are you playing the full suite? i'm just finishing up the prelude, i went in reverse order: toccata, sarabande, then prelude. makes sense because as you said, the toccata is very difficult. the time it took to develop the speed on the toccata took as long as anything else i've ever played. keep up the good work, it's worth it in the end when you get to perform this wonderful piece.

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#603770 - 07/14/02 02:34 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by MD:
Mike,
I too am surprised at how pour le piano never seems to come up on topics on debussy...but it really is a masterpiece, are you playing the full suite? i'm just finishing up the prelude, i went in reverse order: toccata, sarabande, then prelude. makes sense because as you said, the toccata is very difficult. the time it took to develop the speed on the toccata took as long as anything else i've ever played. keep up the good work, it's worth it in the end when you get to perform this wonderful piece.[/b]
Hey thanks! Yeah, I am learning the whole suite. The Prelude and Sarabande are pretty much perfected IMO, but that Toccata is a real killer.

Mike

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#603771 - 07/14/02 02:40 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603772 - 07/14/02 02:49 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by ryan:


RE the Chopin Op. 20 Scherzo - I did not find this more difficult than Op. 31. Op. 20 has so much repetition that you really only have to learn about 5 pages of music. As for the technical difficulty of Op. 20, it really isn't that bad when you use the proper hand motions. In fact, it almost plays itself.

Ryan[/b]
Cool! Thanks. I will probably start working on it soon. I especially like the A part starting with those two weird chords, then going into that kind of rumbling and growling. Then the middle part, I love the way a baby song is included. This piece is like waking a piano in the middle of its sleep and then trying to put him back to sleep again, .. and failing because the growling comes back of course \:D !!
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#603773 - 07/14/02 03:15 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Ok - now that I've read the entire Brendan vs. jeffylube & Der Spion quarral, allow me to say this:

Brendan: Thank you for your posts, and congratulations on your choice of repertoire. I absolutely love the Messiaen Quartet for the end of Time. The Brahms 2nd piano concerto is certainly a big work - you mentioned that you're preparing it for some competitions if I remember correctly. May I ask which? If the size of my hand wasn't so much of a problem, I think I'd be interested in learning the Brahms 2 also.

Jeffylube: Relax. Please.

Der Spion: Please leave this forum if you are going to continue to post ridiculous comments like that. please

And now to address the actual topic of this post...

I have just finished a broadcast recording and am now beginning to start work on several new pieces.

1. Bach: Partita No. 6
2. Beethoven Sonata Opus 109
3. Prokofiev Sonata No 3

(Rautavaara Piano Concerto - I've already learnt this one, but I'm performing it in the finals of a compeittion in about a month's time)

After these are learnt and memorised, I'd like to study:

1. Mozart: Sonata 310
2. Schubert: Impromptus Opus 90 (I'd like to complete the set... ie. learn 3 and 4)
3. Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 4
4. Some Messiaen... which, I've yet to decide.

Ok, folks. Take care... I think we'll all get a lot much piano practice done if we put an end to these ludicrous quarrels. Don't you think?
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#603774 - 07/14/02 06:47 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603775 - 07/14/02 10:02 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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StanSteel2,

The way I approached Op. 20 was to tackle the technical problems first, and then put everything together. I spent days working on each phrase in the opening pages, trying to get the notes and the proper motions down. I also memorized it early, before I could play it well so that I could watch my hands insteacd of the music. I then (and am still) alternated slow and fast practice. I may have been a bit misleading in my previous post (I since edited it). This really is a difficult piece to play well. That is why I tackled the technical problems first, well before trying to learn the piece as a whole.

One bit of advice, consider using the fingering 1231234 for the chromatic scale at the end. I found 12131 to be too slow.

Good luck,

Ryan

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#603776 - 07/14/02 10:09 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Hi Aura,

About the Brahms 2! Have a look at the score. It's really not that bad. I find it falls rather nicely into the hands (make no mistake - it's no stroll through the park, and requires stamina). I have relatively small hands, and I found it quite manageable and great fun. As for competitions, it's a relief from the endless number of Rach 2 and 3 that get played on the competition circuit.

Jefflube: I think your point is made, and I certainly don't think anyone here would dispute
that every pianist is different and capable of handling different amounts of work. Apart from that, there's no need to let the thread degenerate into a "who-said-meant-what" squabble --even if Brendan's quip struck you as silly or ill-considered it's not worth a full-blown flame war.
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#603777 - 07/14/02 10:13 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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An observation - I have watched people who are always "working on" lots of music, and they are always working on lots of music. In other words, they never finish anything. Of course this isn't true in all cases, especially present company, but it is something that I have observed in pianists I have been around. In fact, I have even been caught in this trap before. I caught myself saying thing slike " I am working on all kinds of things, but I have nothing to play."

It probably depends on the definition of "working on". I go through periods were I like to read through lots of music. But I don't consider this to be working on something - I am just reading it for enjoyment. Often when I am trying to decide what to learn next I will pick up a bunch of works and "work on" them for a while until I make a decision about them. But I don't really consider this to be "working on" either - it is really more trying them on for size.

My definition of "working on" a piece is to sit down and solve it's technical problems, memorize it, and then polish it up. When polishing I continue to form ideas about interpretation, I work on spots, and later I perform it for people I know.

Sorry for rambling. Brendan's comments got me thinking about this, and I thought posting my approach might be useful.

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#603778 - 07/14/02 10:41 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Ryan,

Good post! I think that's very close to my approach. It's certainly close to what I mean by "reading" through things. I do "read" through lots of stuff (new or old), before settling on something to actually "work" on. I draw a distinction between "playing" and "working". The latter is a much more concentrated effort (and is restricted to just a few things), this is, for me, a process of working carefully and attentively to the details (musical/technical) involved in the work.(Though I sometime think my working pace seems, initially slow and glacial, I find it much more productive). Playing, however, is for me a more open (or, if you like, relaxed) activity that include "reading" new things, playing around with older stuff, or just improvising.
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#603779 - 07/14/02 11:16 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Netizen,

Thanks for following up. That was exactly what I was trying to convey, only much better said.

Ryan

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#603780 - 07/14/02 11:48 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Purposely spelling my name wrong only goes to show who registered "Der Spion" but what a deep thinker you are. Thanks for littering the forum with some good, old-fashioned idiocy. That's the last I have to say about that.

Aura,

How did your recording session go? I was looking on the ABC website for the past week for anything about it (when it would be broadcasted, your bio, etc.). Anyway, congrats.

The Brahms fits easier under the hand than #1, which has so many bare, heavy octaves. The biggest technical issue in #2 is going from one extreme of the register to another in a very short amount of time. There's also the famous scales in thirds in the middle of the fourth movement, but most people have to fake that. Myself included. \:D

I'm going to try the Wideman competition in Shreveport, LA, some competitions in Ohio and Indiana, the Corpus Christi, and the Kingsville. The level of playing always very high at any competition it seems, so it's a good experience to hear your peers and superiors regardless of whether you win anything or not.
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#603781 - 07/14/02 03:28 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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#603782 - 07/14/02 03:38 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Originally posted by Brendan:
Purposely spelling my name wrong only goes to show who registered "Der Spion" but what a deep thinker you are. Thanks for littering the forum with some good, old-fashioned idiocy. That's the last I have to say about that.
[/b]
Well I was origionally going to stop checking this board, as 1) I dont really have anything usefull to share with you people, 2) I dont play the piano, and 3) it's fairly dull since I dont have much common ground.

Brendon, I assure you that I am not Jeffylube, and while I can see the clever point you were trying to make I dont care to continue this any longer. I dont know you, but I'm sure you're a smart guy. Having read your thoughts on this board though, you come off to me as being somewhat narrow and arrogant, while simultainiously acting too mechanical for me to enjoy debating with. Anyway, the only reason I posted this last time was to take full credit for my being an ass. If I knew Jeffylube, I wouldnt need his help there.

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#603783 - 07/14/02 05:29 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Wow. this is getting out of hand.
First of all, Brendan, I am sorry, i really didn't mean to make it sound like that you spent time "tinkering around" with a majorly difficult piece. in fact, my post was not meant to offend at all. I was just suprised at your saying if anyone believes In quality instead of quantity. My point was made only to say that some pianists are different, and some are able to spread their work over quite a few pieces, while some really like to focus in on a few pieces, like you. I did not mean to make a judgment on your playing at all! I think this all basically boils down to that all pianists are different, and what Brendan had to say was misinterpreted, and some people need to calm down.
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#603784 - 07/14/02 08:15 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Bygones, Amy. That's the trouble with Internet forums...meanings can be misinterpreted easily and become convoluted.

Are you doing a junior recital soon?
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#603785 - 07/14/02 09:19 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I do have a junior recital coming up!
I didn't ever think i could get so crazy over a stupid recital!
The problem is, i am not even really sure what I am playing for it!
I think that i may put together a whole "Rachmaninoff" program together, as that is going to be a major point of my study in my second semester junior year.
it's difficult, though, because my two piano professors are driving me nuts. The one that is my teacher is very protective of me, and the other that's not my teacher wants me as his student, and will do nothing short of insulting my teacher to his face to "win me over".
Sometimes musicians drive me crazy. You can probably agree! ( we need not to look far beyond this forum to see that......)
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#603786 - 07/15/02 03:16 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Moki Offline
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Loc: Washington State
I only get a few minutes (literally!!) a day right now, but I've been "working" on Beethoven's "Pathetique" Sonata.

I also work on music we do in church, on an as-needed basis. My favorites are anything written by our music pastor (gospel/jazz/funk/hip-hop/classical/you-name-it-he-writes-it) -- often just a chord chart, but that provides a lot of opportunity for growth for me.

I'd like to work on something Chopin (prelude or etude), but I can't find my book (buried somewhere in my room).

Hopefully, if I can get the kids back on a daily routine (we start homeschooling again next month), I'll "schedule" in a regular practice time. \:D
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#603787 - 07/15/02 05:51 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
yok Offline
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Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 464
Loc: New Zealand
Working on:
Bach French Suite No.4 in E flat
Beethoven Sonata in F, Op. 54
Liszt La Chapelle de Guillaume Tell from his Swiss Year (I must have one of those some time!)
Rachmaninov G sharp minor Prelude, Op.32/12

Brahms Andante from Piano Trio in C, Op 87 and Allegro non troppo from Cello Sonata in E minor, Op 38.

Various Schubert lieder.

Sitting in the Inbox:
Schubert B major sonata
Handel D minor suite

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#603788 - 07/15/02 11:40 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
nancyww Offline
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Registered: 01/21/02
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Loc: central oregon
What am I working on???? Theory, theory and theory. And sight reading. For the syllabus level 7 exam this fall. Who knows what possessed me to do this. :rolleyes: A need for some structure in my life? The desire for some (hopefully) attainable musical goals? Pure lunacy? Since I never played a scale until a year ago and still can't keep my key signatures straight, this is going to be a stretch, to say the least. To make things worse, 3 of the 4 pieces I play have to be memorized. That shouldn't be difficult except that I blank out when nervous

My teacher must be concerned about me making it thru the exam,too, because at my last lesson she changed a couple of my pieces, scaling back to pieces that are short and already finished. Yeah, good idea.

Here they are: Bach preludium 21 in Bb (I think), or prelude no.11 in gminor; Beethoven Sonata op 28 3rd movement (ha,just a little over 1 page, thanks, Beethoven), Brahms intermezzo 117 no. 1; Scriabin op11 no 10.

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#603789 - 07/15/02 06:38 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Mr. Gould Offline
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I didn't think Brendan said anything negative and I dont understand why some people were arguing with him!!!! Well since that discussion is over with I will move on...

I only get a few minutes (literally!!) a day right now, but I've been "working" on Beethoven's "Pathetique" Sonata.[/b]

Hey what page are you on?!?!?!? I have almost finished the second

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#603790 - 07/15/02 08:29 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I'm not one to get involved in flame wars without a thick layer of asbestos but ... I honestly did not see anything that warranted the reactions Brendan received to his initial post.

Now with that out of the way ... of late, I've been focusing more on the vocal pursuits than on the piano pursuits, but I do manage to make some time to work on what I've been working on for a while now: Bach's Prelude and Fugue in C minor from WTC II.

Unfortunately, I have things like writing grant proposals in the way but once that's submitted, then I'm hoping to take up organ lessons, so that'll give me a whole new set of music to work on. I can't wait! \:\)

Lyn F.
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#603791 - 07/15/02 09:46 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
I am working on Chopin's Berceus, Opus 57. I have it to the point where I can play it quite well, except that my hand size (small) is such that I have to do some gyrations to play the RH fast broken chords (about 2/3 of the way through) smoothly. Now I'm fooling with the rubato to see what sounds the best.

Oh, for the days when I was a piano major and could practice 8 hours a day... now that I have a real job (well, I'm an attorney, so I suppose that's arguable, but...) I'm lucky if I get one hour a day.
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#603792 - 07/15/02 10:01 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Bernard Offline
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I'm working on Chopin's Nocturne Op. 9, No. 1 and only select phrases from Nocturne Op. 27, No. 2 (one of my favorites) so that when I finish Op9No1, I can go to Op27No2 and already have a jump start on the trickier passages. I am going to start this week on Ravel's Sonatine starting with the 2nd movement first.

I'm also working on my technique with various Chopin etudes.
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#603793 - 07/15/02 10:19 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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I agree with Chemical Girl; I fail to see how things became bitter with Brendan's simple statement. I think sometimes without facial expression and body-language to go along with the post, mere words can be taken completely out of context...
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#603794 - 07/15/02 10:22 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Bernard Offline
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MikeC65 says:
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now that I have a real job (well, I'm an attorney, so I suppose that's arguable, but...)
I am one of the apparently few people who actually admire lawyers. I had a friend who went to law school while working full time (lobster shift) at the company where I work in the 1980's (may she rest in peace; she died of cancer 4 or 5 years ago). She didn't work full-time the whole time she was studying but she was some worker that's for sure.

And what's more, we're a nation of laws; what, I ask, could be a more appropriate profession?

Kudos to you.
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#603795 - 07/15/02 11:09 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
vivi Offline
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Registered: 06/26/02
Posts: 13
Loc: Sydney
I agree with Mike, it's good to have long practice hours, the luxury that I haven't encountered since I graduated from music school...trying to get back to it now, picking up old pieces, currently working on Chopin Etudes, Beethoven Appassionata, Poulenc Toccata, and Rachmaninov Prelude in G minor. My wish is to work on the Liszt Rhapsody no. 2 one day \:\)

Don't think I'll be able to prioritise practise at the moment though, gotta work and study for CPA. But it's good to be able to share \:o

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#603796 - 07/16/02 10:13 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
okat47 Offline
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Registered: 10/13/01
Posts: 193
Loc: Canada
Hi. It so interesting to hear what other's are working on. Right now I'm working on mostly Bach, because it's my favourite.
-Goldberg Variations
-Art of the Fugue
-Italian Concerto
I'm hoping to use one of these for my school repertoire in the fall... though my prof may have other ideas :rolleyes: . I'm also doing some composing -I have a piano piece and a trombone quartet underway. Is anyone else doing any composition?

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#603797 - 07/16/02 12:53 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Vid Offline
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All flames aside this thread has made me think about what I've been doing. I have been "working" on a lot of pieces, but its really been reading through pieces. I know for myself that I will not "perfect" anything by playing a whole bunch of pieces at the same time. I'm going to try to concentrate on the Brahms "Handel Variations" and see how far I can get with that.

Cheers Brendan for making me think about what I'm doing!
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#603798 - 07/16/02 09:15 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Chris W1 Offline
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Loc: Boston
Glad to see others trying to maintain Chopin's Berceuse. I think I know the part you are talking about, Mike. The RH took me two weeks to get all those voicings to tempo. Maintaining evenness in the latter passages and not taking the LH for granted are what I generally start to have difficulty with.

I'm at a crossroads, where to learn anything else I think I'll have to let go of other stuff. I do memorize and feel I'm only half way to doing justice to any given piece when that is done. Afterward, I start focusing on continuity. My whole repertoire. Are you ready?

Chopin C mn prelude
Chopin Berceuse
Rach C# mn prelude
Gershwin's Silent Night prelude
Bach's organ prelude (Nun Kom der Heiden Highland?), Busoni

My music is in boxes from our move, so checking spelling isn't possible. Appologies, especially for the German.

I am glad I picked up the Bach piece. It's reopened my ears to his genius. After I polish it up another ton, I'd like to reach for some Scarlatti and then back to Chopin.

Chris W
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#603799 - 09/18/02 04:44 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
yok Offline
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Registered: 06/06/01
Posts: 464
Loc: New Zealand
Time for an update

Schubert B major sonata, D.575, 1st movt
Handel Suite in D minor
Liszt Aux Cypresses de la Villa d'Este I
Brahms Piano Quartet in C minor, Op.60, 1st movt
Various songs by Schubert, Brahms, Tchaikovsky

P.S. Let's not have that quality/quantity argument again.

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#603800 - 09/18/02 08:43 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
StanSteel Offline
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Registered: 04/17/02
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Loc: Los Angeles
Update:

Winter Wind Etude (Chopin)
Transcendental Etude #2 (Liszt)
Valse Oubliee #1 (Liszt)
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#603801 - 09/19/02 12:44 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Ðanor Offline
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Registered: 08/07/02
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Loc: Santiago, Chile
hi there, i see that almost every one got a reply on this post so i dont wanna be out of it! ;\)

im preparing a recital for Nov so i will focus my attention to the program:
-Bach p&f in D major 2º book (for me it's the best prelude of all, and the most beautiful fugue)
-Mozart Sonata in C minor
- a Paul Creston prelude
- "Pour Klavier" Alejandro Guarello (chilean composer the piece it's like 1980)
- Schumann Fantasiestücke op. 12 (In der Nacht and Traumes Wirren)
-Schönberg (or Schoenberg) 6 kleine Klavierstücke
-Debussy etude "pour les octaves"

Beside that im studyng the chopin's Op 10 no. 1 and the "thirds" etude.
Also start reading rach etude tableaux op. 39 no 6 but i think i will stop studying it cause it's god damn hard and will take a lot of time to study and im already busy with the other pieces
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#603802 - 09/19/02 02:47 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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For anyone who's interested in the exam system, I am currently studying for the Grade exam in November. My pieces will are:

Bach - Italian Concerto in F - 3. Presto
Hummel - Sonata No. 10 in Eb - 1. Allegro con Brio
Tchaikovsky - 'January' from 'The Seasons'

I'm also planning to work on a collection of Scandinavian pieces in the new year, and for an instrumental audition at Cambridge, I'm planning to prepare Chopin's Barcarolle...if I can pull it off!

By the way, I really think that Brendan's fair and important comment was completely blown out of proportion. Why are people so defensive?

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#603803 - 09/19/02 04:02 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Im working on:

Bach-Siloti: Chaconne
Amy Woodford-Finden: Kashmiri Song(transcribed by Steven Hough)
Roger Quilter: Now Sleeps the Crimson Petal(transcribed by Stephen Hough)

Has anyone heard either of the above songs in their original versions?

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#603804 - 09/19/02 04:45 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
Stanza Offline
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Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
To be brief:

Beethoven Moonlight Sonata Mvt 3
Chopin Revolutionary Etude
CPE Bach Solfegettio
Mendelssohn Scherzo Op 14
Confrey Dizzy Fingers
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#603805 - 09/19/02 04:57 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Chopin - Nocturne op. 9 no. 2
Bartok - Some pieces from Mikrokosmos 5
Ravel - Sonatine

Plus a piece by Messiaen, Holliger, Gubaidulina, or Ligeti. My teacher has ordered some music. Next lesson I'll decide on one of those.
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#603806 - 09/20/02 07:29 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
I'm working on more ways of bringing tonal ambiguity into my improvisation. There are always relations to discover. For instance a harmonic minor scale contains a minor triad on the sixth because of the third gap in the scale. This opens possibilities for relating, say, C minor to G# minor etc.

I'm also fiddling a lot with symmetric scales running against polytonal passages. e.g. the three scales of the form 2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1 (in semitone jumps) have four minor chords and four major chords as subsets. Their sister scales 3,1,3,1,3,1 have three major chords as subsets.

The use of these related keys in composition was an infatuation of my youth and I continue to revisit them in various guises in my improvisation.

Another thing I'm working on is an improvisational notation based on invariant properties of musical creatures I term "cells". The way in which the cells change during improvisation defines a musical landscape. My unsolved problem is to devise a sensible means of defining invariant properties of a cell in ways which allow improvisational development without losing coherence.

So far I haven't found anything better than slightly modified ordinary notation with plenty of remarks in English. If I didn't have this sort of thing to occupy me at my age I might lapse into drink and debauchery.
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#603807 - 09/20/02 09:05 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Hi.
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Right now I'm working on mostly Bach, because it's my favourite.
-Goldberg Variations
-Art of the Fugue
-Italian Concerto
I'm hoping to use one of these for my school repertoire in the fall... though my prof may have other ideas
Well, it turns out my prof did have other ideas, so I'm not doing any Bach this year \:\( . My repertoire for the next 8 or 9 months is:
-Scarlatti Sonata K. 24
-Beethoven: Concerto No. 3
-Schumann: In der Nacht
-Szymanowski: Etude Op.4 No. 3
-Ravel: Oiseaux triste
-Cowell: Advertisement

It freaks me out that I have to be able to play all of this by May. Oh well, one day at a time...

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#603808 - 09/22/02 11:46 AM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Stanza, your repertoire is beginning to look quite a bit like mine! I acutally thought I was reading my own post for a second there. It's also interesting to meet someone else who's played the Confrey - Dizzy Fingers...I think it's a real ly great piece, fun to play a breakneck speed too! How are you finding it and the Mendelssohn?

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#603809 - 09/22/02 10:56 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Hello, all.

Looks like I am a little late to join this post, but...

Working on seriously at the moment:

- CPE Bach - Allegro in Cmin (don't know any further details)
- JS Bach - English Suite no 2 (not even halfway through at this point).
- Handel - Allemande from a suite in Dmin (once again, I don't know which one it is)
- JS Bach - Echo from suite in dmin

I'm also concentrating a lot on my improvisation and composition. I've got to sit an audition for college in November which will be based mainly on improvisation and a the performance of a jazz standard. I don't know any jazz standards, so I'd better get cracking on that soon (or immediately).
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#603810 - 09/22/02 10:57 PM Re: What are you working on, what do you hope to work on soon?
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