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#606630 - 09/06/06 08:11 PM
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Cy, you HOPE he's using a 'special lubricant'. There are plenty of incompetents out there using inappropriate stuff.
Aureliano, NEVER use oil. The proper substance is a Teflon-containing substance that is made for piano tech work and sold through piano tech catalogues. It contains no oils, silicones, or petroleum products. The precision applicators are often sold as "precision oilers" and they are in piano tech catalogs but I have seen them in some hardware stores and hobby shops as well.
Personally, I can't think of any 'squeaks when the key is pushed' that would be properly resolved by squirting liquid lube. It might well solve the problem temporarily by hiding it, but it's not really the solution. Where is he applying this "oil"??
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#606631 - 09/06/06 09:54 PM
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What kind of piano? And how old?
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#606633 - 09/08/06 12:40 AM
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Essex is a Young Chang product if I remember correctly. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will chide me without mercy. Young Chang has had for a long time a problem with rough nickel plating on their key pins and sometimes glue contamination on the key pin side. As the key is depressed the bushing cloth will play the balance rail pin much like drawing a bow over a wire on a violin. A drop of Protek lube on the balance rail bushing will often rectify the squeak at least temporarily. I have tried to buff the key pin (balance rail) with limited success. The pedal related squeak is usually related to the pedal rod guide block bushing either having a little glue contamination on the inside of the bushingn or the rod going through the bushing at an angle (noy parallel to the hole) causing a rub related groan/squeak. Heavier bodied lubricant may be needed for this noise though Protek or powdered teflon will sometimes suffice. Expect both noises to recur after some period of time.
Dale Fox RPT
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#606634 - 09/08/06 04:02 PM
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Thanks for the tidbit, Dale. I have been dealing with similar squeaks where the damper lever felt has glue soak-through and the spoon squeaks against it. The damper lift rod for the sustain pedal squeaks in the same way.
I have used Protek gel form (MPL-1) so far, but don't know yet how long it will last.
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