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#608459 - 03/04/08 02:27 PM Re: ibach "richard wagner" small concert grand.1895.
eddie twang Offline
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Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 132
Loc: east yorks,england
hi ron,dont get me wrong there are some terrible european pianos.the english made thousands of horrible,cheap,striaght strungs with overdamper actions,both tape check and spring and loop,and made some hideous baby grands with spring and loop actions.the two best english makers are "john brinsmead" and "john broadwood".both made some wonderfull pianos.the french also made some terrible pianos,any restorer who thinks old "erard"grands have anything going for them soon loses that romantic notion when they have worked on a few!..for the very best look to germany and austria.l will do a list of the "goodies" tommorow when l have a bit more time.

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#608460 - 02/08/09 06:28 AM Re: ibach "richard wagner" small concert grand.1895.
squealz Offline
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Registered: 01/22/09
Posts: 2
Loc: Sydney
My Parents own an Ibach that had been commisioned by Richard Wagner. My Great Great grandfather travelled to Europe to make some purchases in 1883/84. He was keen to buy a few grand pianos and ship them back to Australia. He visited Ibach. Ibach had just built 2 pianos that had been commisioned by a composer but he had died before payment was made. These 2 pianos were sold to my GG grandfather at a good price. We still have them both in the family. I am interested to know if there is any interest in these pianos and a $ value. Not that we would be interested in selling as we love it. Happy to post a few pics if you are interested.
Amelia xx

#608461 - 02/08/09 07:00 AM Re: ibach "richard wagner" small concert grand.1895.
James Senior Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Posts: 342
Loc: England
Hello Amelia,

I too found Eddie's thread on this piano, and followed it with one where I was looking for photos of these instruments. This is because some day I hope to reproduce them on my brother's Ibach where the originals have been replaced.
1896 Ibach concert grand

On this basis, I'd be very happy if you could post some photos!
Many thanks,

#608462 - 02/08/09 10:22 AM Re: ibach "richard wagner" small concert grand.1895.
Gregor Offline
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Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 446
Loc: Münster, Germany
Here are photos from a Kaps grand. Notice that strange construction of the soundboard. Seems to be an additonal sound "case" or resonator on the soundboard. Indeed, Kaps made great instrumens. And I agree with Jürgen´s opinion about Feurich: very nice instruments.


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#608463 - 02/08/09 06:04 PM Re: ibach "richard wagner" small concert grand.1895.
TsonicTsunami Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 39
Loc: Melbourne Village FL.
Wow Eddie ... what a beautiful instrument , congratulations!
I just picked up a George Steck baby grand (late 1940's early 50's) for my first attempt at a restoration. It's in pretty rough shape but the main components seem to be sound. I plan to post pictures of the little monster in a new thread when I figure out a website to host them, Anyway didn't mean to hijack the thread and the GS is not at the level of your outstanding ibach but I find your work very inspirational, thanks for the pictures. Tom Vaughan
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