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#613510 - 07/10/03 11:05 AM Fabric softener??
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Has anyone had good results using fabric softener and alcohol to soften over laquered hammers? How do you do this exactly? I hate to keep added substances to the hammers, but maybe this is a good technique.

One unrelated question. What is the role of lanolin in hammers and is it possible/reasonable to add lanolin to hammers?
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#613511 - 07/10/03 01:45 PM Re: Fabric softener??
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Just enter those words: fabric softener lanolin

into the archives of PTG, should find a few answers http://www.ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech/
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#613512 - 07/10/03 11:10 PM Re: Fabric softener??
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Yes,, I confess i use fabric softener and rubbing alcohol. I use a 1 part to 40 mix and i spray it on the hammers with a spray bottle. Then I brush the hammers with a brass brush. No complaints .
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#613513 - 07/11/03 12:37 AM Re: Fabric softener??
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Interesting. How long until you hear the results? Is it a dramatic change, or more subtle? I've never tried it.
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#613514 - 07/15/03 09:38 PM Re: Fabric softener??
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Right now. immediately.... remember rubbing alcohol is 305 water and you are using a 40 to 1 ration of fabrivk softener. dont make the mistake of using a dropper. It needs to be a fine spray mist.. good luck!!!!!
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#613515 - 07/26/03 09:54 PM Re: Fabric softener??
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Don't use this method very much but know techs who have used it with some success. Make sure you don't use downey. You might literally end up with Renner blues \:\)
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#613516 - 08/17/03 08:57 AM Re: Fabric softener??
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It took me a minute, John, but I got it. \:D

Ralph,

When using fabric softener, I usually use one capful per load. ;\)

Seriously, are you sure that lacquer is the culprit? What kind of hammer and piano are we speaking of? If reinforcing lacquer is the problem, you might try a microdrop of acetone at the strikepoint or just at the top of the shoulders.

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#613517 - 08/17/03 11:21 PM Re: Fabric softener??
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Actually, I was more curious than really thinking about using fabric softener. I came across this technique while searching the piano tech archives. I have a recently rebuilt S&S B and have been slowly voicing the hammers over the past month. I have them just about where I want them by using sanding sealer and steam when needed.

I think sanding sealer gives a much better result than lacquer or acetone/keytop. The latter sure is fast, but I think yields a harsher sound.
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