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#616727 - 09/20/06 01:59 PM
Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 02/19/02
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I daughter broke a treble string during practice. The technician replaced the string and tuned the note. He warned me that it would go out of tune very soon. He stopped by two days later to tune the note again. And it was out of tune again soon after. My piano is due for the regular tuning soon. When should I have the piano tuned? Will the note get out of tune soon after? How many tunings will it take for that note to stay in tune?
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#616730 - 09/20/06 05:17 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 3148
Loc: Canton, MI
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Monica, I'll be glad to trade you my old stable "A". It may even take a "few years" to stabilize...lol
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#616731 - 09/20/06 07:17 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 16566
Loc: Oakland
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If the tech is careful about getting the coils tight and everything in place properly, it should be reasonably stable after about three months, if it is pulled up to pitch a couple of times in the interim. It will still go out of tune faster than the rest of the piano for some time after that, but the worst will be over by then.
If it is a bad tech who does not do that, then it takes a lot longer.
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#616732 - 09/20/06 07:35 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 400
Loc: Austin, Texas
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I learned a neat trick from one of the concert technicians at Steinway concerning replacement strings.
After you have replaced the string, including seating at the bridge and termination points and stretching the string, tune the string to pitch and rub both segments of the replacement string with a hammershank until you can smell the hammershank getting hot. This causes the string to go slightly sharp and the pitch seems to stabilize much faster. I do this on every replacement string at the University where I work and it eliminates about two tunings until the pitch stabilizes.
It doesn't sound like it should work, but it really does. Try it, you might like it.
Tom
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#616733 - 09/20/06 07:37 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 400
Loc: Austin, Texas
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I should have said that this only works on treble string, not bass strings.
Tom
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#616734 - 09/20/06 08:09 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 16566
Loc: Oakland
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More likely you are stretching the string beyond the elastic limit, which is not a good thing to do.
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#616735 - 09/20/06 10:23 PM
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Registered: 08/30/06
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Loc: Austin, Texas
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By slightly sharp, I mean a cent or two.
Tom
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#616736 - 09/20/06 10:49 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 3394
Loc: Orlando FL
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Monica - bass strings stabilize faster than treble strings. You might be ok at the next tuning.
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#616738 - 09/21/06 03:09 PM
Re: Broken string, when to tune after replacement?
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 656
Loc: Canada
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I know I risk a severe tongue-lashing for suggesting it, but if you are comfortable doing it, I would just keep the new string in tune yourself. In the case of a string replacement this winter for us, it would have driven me nuts to have had to wait for a tuner to do a few seconds of work to keep our vertical in tune.
The two techs who work on our pianos are OK with this (and have even given me some pointers).
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
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