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#620248 - 01/09/02 08:59 PM
Glueing Keys
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Registered: 12/23/01
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I have some front top ivories to reglue and the tech gave me 5 simulation ivory halves to replace my missing ones.
The plastics were thicker and a little longer so I planed and filed them to size. I have just a few minor detailing to do on them now to replace the keys. I've lightly sanded the old linen glue on the keys to clean and provide contact.
Question the tech said I could use plain old Elmers white glue of wood glue and weigh them down. Is this glue ok, I don't want to use a super strong glue in case I locate 5 real ivories to permanently replace my missing.
Also can I weight the front of the key with something while in the piano or should I remove the keys and weight. I have removed the keys before but I'd rather not keep opening the fallboard if I don't have to.
It would be nice to play a piano with all it's keys.
I consulted one shop to do the job and they wanted $400 - $500 for this...too much.
Should I check around I really wanted to match the ivories, and was looking on ebay for fronts. Can ivory be sanded with say 400 grit sandpaper? Would I be able to make a thicker ivory fit?
What are my options and what is better ?
Thanks, Littlebit :p
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#620249 - 01/09/02 09:14 PM
Re: Glueing Keys
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Registered: 08/19/01
Posts: 635
Loc: WHITE BLUFF (Nashville area) T...
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If you want to make a breakable bond, use the Elmer's or superglue; they both will come off later by prying. I would advise taking the keys out, it's just easier. Clamp them instead of weighing them down. Yes, $400-500 is way too much for this work, you are right. You can sand the ivory. Sand the bottom of course so the scratches wont be seen or felt (sorry if that seems obvious- people have sanded the tops!) 400 grit paper will take you forever- try 150 or 180. If you would like to send me a sample, I probably can match the color and size and thickness for you. My website has my address if you wish.........Sam
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Since 1975; Full-time piano tuner/tech in Nashville; Lacquer and polyester specialist. www.SamLewisPiano.com
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#620250 - 01/09/02 09:41 PM
Re: Glueing Keys
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Registered: 12/23/01
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Thanks, that sounds good nice site, I'll email you for details, I would feel better doing the job right and have all ivory. Where would I get these clamps are they specialty items or can I substitute? I've also heard the ivories are set with a glue imprenated linen cloth? Does this take the place of glue or is glue still necessary? I have two tail ivories that are loose, should I pop these with a putty knife of something and get the whole keyboard ok. I don't need the bleach and polish or the $400 price. Thanks, Littlebit 
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#620251 - 01/09/02 09:58 PM
Re: Glueing Keys
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Registered: 08/19/01
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Loc: WHITE BLUFF (Nashville area) T...
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The clamps are specialty items, but you can use a spring clamp or c clamp or about any clamp. Yes, the glue is necessary, the linen is not. Re: the loose tails- you can pop them or better yet, work some glue under them (you wont break them that way like you might if you try to pop them)........Sam
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Since 1975; Full-time piano tuner/tech in Nashville; Lacquer and polyester specialist. www.SamLewisPiano.com
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#620252 - 01/09/02 10:44 PM
Re: Glueing Keys
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Registered: 12/23/01
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Sam,
Sounds good, what kind of glue is best for the job? I've heard they have a glue for ivory.
I'm looking foward to tinkling all the ivories.
Thanks... Have a good eveing, Littlebit
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