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#625511 - 03/08/08 08:57 PM "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
nhlevin Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 15
Loc: Chicago
Greetings. We have a Knabe WKG53. A pencil has found it's way down behind the keyboard cover (actually, it wasn't that hard to do...really). Might someone tell me how to remove the cover so as to be able to remove the pencil and the annoying clicking it's making when we play.

Many thanks!

Neal
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#625512 - 03/08/08 09:44 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
David Jenson Online   content
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Registered: 10/22/06
Posts: 2035
Loc: Maine
I know of very few technicians who could call up a mental picture of a piano like your "Knabe WKG53" simply by model #. Is it a grand? From the pencil problems it kinda' sounds like one.

As to removing the fallboard ("cover"), ... if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't try it. If you insist, try the dealer. He might be able to look at a model on the floor and give you some help.

There are so many variations in the attachment mechanisms that this forum probably isn't a good place to ask for help.

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#625513 - 03/08/08 10:52 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
Keith Roberts Offline
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 1984
Loc: Murphys, Ca
You didn't hold the thought long enough.

The softfall fallboard is a little more difficult to take on and off.

You should be able to have the dealer show you how to. Some just lift off. Others have a screw.

Take a string and tie a big lightweight fluffball to the end of your piano pencils. Now they can't do what that one did!!!!
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#625514 - 03/09/08 08:13 AM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
nhlevin Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 15
Loc: Chicago
Fabulous suggestion on the fluffball, Keith. Thanks! I did notice two set-screws on the ends of the fallboard in the raised position. Do you know if I can simply remove these and lift out the board?
We just bought the piano last August and I hate to trouble the dealer, though I am do for a spring tuning and we use the dealer's son as our tuner. I'll certainly call him now if you think I shouldn't attempt this alone, yet I'm pretty handy and I was going to wait for a complete thaw here in Chicago before calling.

David...think harder. While you do, take a peek at this: http://www.smcmusic.com/oldsite_knabe/grands.php?boot=kn_wkg53

Neal
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#625515 - 03/09/08 02:12 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
Supply Offline
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Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 3919
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
What would you hate more - to trouble your dealer or to put a big fat scratch in the polyester finish? It can happen very quickly if you have no experience in removing a fallboard.

Have the piano tuned - it should be tuned four times in its first year anyway - and let the tech show you how to safely retrieve a pencil.
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#625516 - 03/09/08 02:36 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
Keith Roberts Offline
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 1984
Loc: Murphys, Ca
Jurgen is right on the scratching. There are some things better shown than explained. I have been fixing things since I was 10 years old. I take things apart with impunity. Sometimes it has got the better of me. Sometimes it has brought out the better in me. I think I am better because of it.

Zo, the Zen question: If you make a mistake and no one is around to see it and you fix it before anyone knows, did a mistake ever occur?
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#625517 - 03/09/08 03:47 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
UprightTooner Offline
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Registered: 12/21/07
Posts: 839
Loc: North-East US
Nhlevin:

LEAVE THE SCREWS ALONE!

You should not have to remove the fallboard to get the pencil. Just remove the front. If you do need to remove the fallboard, post me and I will try to help some more. The front has to come off first anyway.

Open the top by lifting in the front center. The back of the top is hinged.

Remove the front by first releasing the latches. There is one on each side, at the top, on the inside. Use a stepstool if needed. To release the latch, press the buttons. They are on the side of the latches that face the middle of the piano. The top of the front should now be free. Pull the top of the front toward you a few inches and lift the front off of the piano. It's heavier than you might expect. Be ready.

You should be able to reach the pencil.

When putting the front back on, first line up the pins or dowels on the bottom with the holes in the piano. (Maybe it's visa versa) Then push the top in until the latches click into place.

Let us know how it works out.
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#625518 - 03/09/08 03:58 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
nhlevin Offline
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Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 15
Loc: Chicago
Keith, that certainly depends on your definition of "mistake." I don't believe that the word applies to chaps like you and I who like to tinker. If during our tinkering something goes awry, then it's an education, not a mistake, and that, therefore, is why we are better for it.

Now I'm not in the habit of doing experiments -- or tinkering -- on expensive personal property like our fine piano, though I did think that if it were a simple enough process that could be explained on this board, then I'd undertake the task solo. From what I am hearing, it is not and I'll give the tuner a ring for our second post-purchase tuning and a lesson on fallboard removal.

UT, I'm less than a novice, though I can't help but believe that your suggestions are related to an upright. The WKG53 is a small grand.

Thanks to Jurgen as well!

Neal
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#625519 - 03/09/08 04:12 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
Keith Roberts Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 1984
Loc: Murphys, Ca
Naw, strikly a grand thing. The softfall fall board is tricky. It puts pressure on the left hinge. Even when the screws are loose enough to let the fallboard release, it can be tight until a certain point, then come off almost on it's own. Getting it back on is a little trickier because the hinge rotates back farther than the open position.
Most people don't get the exact right screwdriverhead for those small screws and they are half stripped when I go to take then out.
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Keith's Piano Service
Hathaway Pines,Ca

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#625520 - 03/09/08 04:17 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
nhlevin Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 08/16/07
Posts: 15
Loc: Chicago
My question about whether it was referencing an upright was directed to UprightTooner's post. I fully appreciate your message and will await professional help.
Thanks!
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#625521 - 03/09/08 05:03 PM Re: "The Knabe WKG53 and the Pencil"
UprightTooner Offline
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Registered: 12/21/07
Posts: 839
Loc: North-East US
Nhlevin:

Sorry, I thought that was the number for the upright. I'm glad that you are contacting a tech.
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