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#625531 - 01/01/09 06:09 PM 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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This thread will provide continued updates regarding this year's convention and technical institute. Hope to see you there!

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Olympia, WA
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#625532 - 01/02/09 04:59 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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One of the great opportunities available at PTG conferences is the one-on-one tutoring sessions. This year at Grand Rapids, we have two great tuning tutors: Bill Bremmer, RPT and Richard Ruggero, RPT.

Bill Bremmer, RPT is a seasoned tuning examiner who has nearly 40 years of experience as a piano technician. He is well known amongst fans of historical tuning for his Equal Beating Victorian Temperament, and his thoughtful contributions to discussions of historical tuning.

Richard Ruggero, RPT. - Owner and President of Ruggero Piano, Richard Ruggero is a 30 year seasoned veteran piano technician. He started his training in 1978 with founder and father, Robert Ruggero, and is a Registered Technician of the Piano Technicians Guild (PTG). He has taught at every level of conference and convention from local to national and is a three time conference director for the southeast Regional Conference of the PTG.
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#625533 - 01/03/09 03:25 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Thank you, Ryan. While I can teach anyone who is interested in the EBVT how to tune it aurally and/or use their ETD to tune it in the Direct Interval/program mode as I do, I am primarily interested in helping technicians pass the PTG Tuning Exam. I can help most of all, those who normally use an ETD learn how to tune ET by ear which is required. My newest concept, "ET via Marpurg" seems to work the best of all, according to the feedback I have received.

Anyone may download for free that article and others from my website at: www.billbremmer.com
My suggestion is to study that article first, then come to me for a one on one session, go back home and read it again and practice it. You WILL pass the exam!

By the way, I need to change my website to "40 years", not "almost 40" now that it is 2009. I have also taught tuning twice before at the PTG Annual Convention and at the PTG Central East Regional Seminar. I have been and will again be among the pool of tuning instructors at the Wednesday session of basic skills classes for those who are preparing for the PTG Exams.

I have often been an instructor at my local chapter level and have taught at the Chicago Chapter and am expected to return there again soon. Last year, I received my 25 year pin as an RPT. For anyone wanting to observe a PTG Exam Master Tuning, I will conduct one of those on Tuesday of Convention week. If there is anyone interested in training to be a PTG Tuning Examiner, please contact me at: billbrpt@charter.net
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#625534 - 01/03/09 04:42 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Thanks for the update, Bill! And congratulations on 40 years of service!
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#625535 - 01/03/09 11:13 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Good post Ryan. Keep letting us know who's doing what there will ya? Thanks!

Jer
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#625536 - 01/04/09 02:01 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Here is some additional information for those of you interested in Grand Rapids Michigan.

http://www.visitgrandrapids.org/visit.php
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#625537 - 01/05/09 12:41 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Thanks for the support, Jerry. I'm hoping that others will also include reasons for attending. I'm hoping to keep this thread near the top of the list until the convention!

The convention lost a bit of $$ last year due to lower numbers of attendance. So if we want to keep the quality up we need to encourage people to attend.

There are a lot of new people coming into the field the past few years. This convention is especially important for them. The information and inspiration to be gained is very worthwhile.

This is my first year on the institute committee (as an apprentice). Guess what my main role is? Piano moving grunt! I'm totally looking forward to it. It will be great to see what goes on behind the scenes more. Just reading the email discussions from the committee has been an education! These folks put so much time and energy into putting on a great show. The least we can do is show up!
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#625538 - 01/05/09 03:00 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Good for you, putting in the time, effort and sacrifice, Ryan. You will probably be missing out on a lot of amazing seminars by being involved behind the scenes.

What I am missing is more info on the web site. People need to plan early to travel and make plans for the whole family etc.

I would love to see more links with names of some lecturers and seminar descriptions.

I am always amazed that the National convention doesn't seem able to learn a bit more form those conventions that have an excellent history of doing an amazing job - the MARC comes to mind. They have their website up a year ahead of time and update it constantly.
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#625539 - 01/05/09 08:00 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I agree with you Jurgen. I've been wondered the same thing as you, why they don't have "who's who" posted on their home web site already with other possible places to stay as well.

Just west, across the river, down the road from the main hotel for example, is a Days Inn about one long block away that might be half the price of this hotel. We all need to know more information ASAP to plan according to our own personal needs, requirements and monetary abilities. Hope that web site I attached 2 or 3 postings above helps with this.

But, if you give all of us ONE dinner, that'll help everyone, won't it Jurgen? \:D
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
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#625540 - 01/05/09 09:34 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Good posts, guys. They are working on the website but are working out some of the details before they go live with the updated version. You should be seeing more soon!
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#625541 - 01/06/09 08:19 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Well Ryan, I admit, it has been many years since I've attended a convention. I've been to dozens and dozens of seminars over the years but, shameful me, hardly any conventions. So, they will be having two more faces for sure with my son and myself along with several others that I know of from my local PTG chapter as well. So, that will help. Now if we can get some of those to come on down from Canada too, (Ann & Dan & Emmery are you listening?? \:D ) that'd be better still.
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
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#625542 - 01/07/09 01:25 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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It will be great to meet you guys in person. I hope you are as good looking as your picture!
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#625543 - 01/14/09 12:54 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Here is an article by institute director, Ward Guthrie:

Can One Class Pay For Convention?
Ward Guthrie, Institute Director

I often hear technicians say they just can’t afford to attend the annual PTG Institute. Sorry, but that’s not a fact, especially for those new to this industry. The truth is that attending the Institute will enable you to make more money. How?

I had been a technician for about five years when I attended an Institute with the entire purpose to improve my aural tuning skills. I attended almost every aural tuning class offered. Did my tuning skills improve? Certainly, but that was not what caused an increase in my income. What did cause the increase? During the classes, I noticed motions and methods the instructors were using that I was not using. By applying what I saw, within three months my tuning time was less by 20 minutes. My tunings were better and completed in less time.

Let’s see – 20 minutes times at least 600 tunings per year equals $12,000 PER YEAR! Did that institute pay for itself? Many, many times over! And that was income for just one year. That one Institute alone has paid for all the Institutes for the rest of my life.

That year, I was still building my business and my income was quite tight. What if I had said “I just can’t afford to attend this year.” I would likely still be saying I could not afford to attend.

What about you? Are you too short sighted to realize that Institute will make you money? Are you losing a lifetime of increased income from not planning now? Budget $5.00 from each tuning to pay for the Grand Rapids Institute. The theme this year is “Excellence Begins With The Basics.” Learn excellence from many of the best in our industry. You will reap benefits for the rest of your career.[/b]
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#625544 - 01/14/09 02:56 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I can only agree. The same thing goes for other learning materials such as books and the Journal. Quality tools as well, of course - if you are a professional, all of the above are wise investments. I am looking forward to the National in Grand Rapids very much.
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#625545 - 01/14/09 04:33 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Thanks for the update Ryan. Very good post.
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#625546 - 01/14/09 07:07 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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“Well Ryan, I admit, it has been many years since I've attended a convention……………………………… Now if we can get some of those to come on down from
Canada too, (Ann & Dan & Emmery are you listening?? \:D ) that'd be better still.”

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Jerry,

I am coming to this thread late, and I just saw your posting there. Now the middle of July is a pretty tough time to leave the beaches around here, but I will let you know soon if I can get away. (My tennis racquet pretty much rules the months of July/August these days………..)

Do you know if the plans for having André Oorebeek do a one day seminar there have been finalized?

Another question.......Is that a bungalow doghouse that Ron Alexander is staying in or is it a two storey??

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#625547 - 01/14/09 09:10 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Well, that depends on how nice Ron is to me between now and THEN. I might even toss in a small heater and a blanket for him. And check on him now and then to see if he's awake, or sleeping. \:D
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#625548 - 01/14/09 09:49 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Silverwood Pianos:

Do you know if the plans for having André Oorebeek do a one day seminar there have been finalized?



www.silverwoodpianos.com [/b]
I believe the André Oorebeek class is happening. Apparently he is going to have a brand new set of hammers to work with on a C7. Should be interesting!
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#625549 - 01/14/09 10:37 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I plan on going for at least a day or two. Like Jerry, it's been a while since I've hit a national.

Any other good seminars we should know about?
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#625550 - 01/15/09 09:49 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Ryan,

Sounds great, we had him do this at the seminar here on a C7; a brand new set of Renner AA Wurzen felt that he worked with. Some of his techniques for voicing procedures are used at the Bosie factory I understand.

André and his voicing procedures are well worth the look. I am glad I decided to attend the seminar here with him last July.

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#625551 - 01/15/09 12:33 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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 Quote:
Originally posted by RoyP:
I plan on going for at least a day or two. Like Jerry, it's been a while since I've hit a national.

Any other good seminars we should know about? [/b]
Its hard to beat the California State Conference!

http://www.calstateptgconference.com/

May the Force be with you...always...
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#625552 - 01/15/09 12:48 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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 Quote:
Originally posted by rysowers:
[QB]Its hard to beat the California State Conference!
...or, if you are on the East Coast, the MARC in Pennsylvania:
http://www.ptgmarc.org/
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#625553 - 01/15/09 03:54 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Roy, I signed up at the PTG website to receive emailing on up coming seminars. While, this year anyway, I cannot attend any seminars, I get about one sent to me a month, approximately that time frame anyway.
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#625554 - 01/15/09 04:12 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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quote:
Well, that depends on how nice Ron is to me between now and THEN.
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I'm on my best behaviourousness Jerry. Honest. I'm being so good, even Santa Clause would be impressed!!! \:D I know you are getting on up there in years Jer..hehe...you do remember who Santa Clause is dontcha!!! Guess I wont win any points with that one...huh?

I am looking forward to the Convention this year.
I havent been to one since 1984 when it was held in Indianapolis. Looking forward to meeting some Forumites too!!!

Thanks for the updates Ryan, keep them coming.
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#625555 - 01/15/09 09:40 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Thanks. What I actually meant was other classes at the Grand Rapids convention. Don't they usually have several different all-day classes? Sorry I wasn't clear.

I did get a flyer for the California seminar yesterday. It looks good, but it's a little out of the way for me. But hey, if it stays as cold here as it is now, I may be looking for a flight out of town.

I've been to the MARC, and it certainly worth attending. Most years I haven't been able to attend the national, so I've gone to one of the regionals.
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#625556 - 01/15/09 11:25 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Roy, the National is within driving distance for you, I should think. No expensive flight, anyhow. Yes, the usually have some all day classes. As well they have several dozen other classes and seminars to chose from over the course of the convention. Hey, yours truly got a call today, asking if I could help out on a 2-session class on repair techniques. Looks like I'll have to get practicing...
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#625557 - 01/15/09 11:29 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Oh boy! We get to watch Jurgen. Can't wait till after that class though for his free drinks.
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
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#625558 - 01/15/09 11:45 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Free drinks?

hmmmm . . .

Kawai will be there as usual, and is planning to bring a Shigeru Kawai concert grand again, along with a bunch of other pianos as usual.

We expect it to be a great convention.
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#625559 - 01/16/09 07:22 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Groot RPT:
Oh boy! We get to watch Jurgen. Can't wait till after that class though for his free drinks. [/b]
Jerry, It might be more interesting to buy him the free drinks... before the class!
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#625560 - 01/17/09 08:49 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Any other news yet on the convention yet Ryan?

Trying to keep this up higher here a little for ya too...

I plan on sending in my money for my son and myself for it this month yet sometime..
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#625561 - 01/18/09 01:18 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Hooray! The website is finally up along with the list of classes! Go to: http://www.ptg.org/conv/2009
Many will be interested to see the following:
 Quote:

All Day Voicing Seminar with Andre Oorebeek, Concert Piano Service, the Netherlands
This 4-period class starts with raw Renner/Wurzen felt hammers on new shanks. Discusses felt production, action friction, shaping the new hammers, complete voicing, and concert preparation. This class was top-rated at the Canadian Assoc. of Piano Technicians Seminar in July 2008. Learn the complete story!
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#625562 - 01/18/09 01:47 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I'll decline to comment on the drinks for now...


 Quote:
Originally posted by rysowers:

"Many will be interested to see the following:
All Day Voicing Seminar with Andre Oorebeek, Concert Piano Service, the Netherlands
This 4-period class starts with raw Renner/Wurzen felt hammers on new shanks. Discusses felt production, action friction, shaping the new hammers, complete voicing, and concert preparation. This class was top-rated at the Canadian Assoc. of Piano Technicians Seminar in July 2008. Learn the complete story!"[/b]
This class is planned for all day Thursday. Why sit in one class for a whole day, you may ask...

Well, we had Andre here for 1-1/2 days and it was amazing. I must have sat through a good dozen of voicing seminars, and a week later, in front of a piano, I was still scratching my head, wondering what to do...

Fact is, there are many, many different approaches and techniques in voicing that can lead to good and predictable results. But only if the whole picture is understood and the technique is followed through from start to finish.

This is probably why I never came away from these seminars, some given by top techs, with as much insight as I had hoped. A two hour seminar is simply too short to get a grasp of the larger picture.

The full day seminar is a great way to go - we will get to see a complete voicing, from start to finish, from the lowest at bass through to the top treble, with all the steps and stages in between. Andre`s seminar will be an eye opener for anyone, even advanced voicers.

When his work was finished at the piano he did for us in Vancouver, I dont think anyone present had ever heard a Yamaha sound so rich and round and powerful.
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#625563 - 01/18/09 12:30 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Yes I second Jurgen’s comments. The only thing he missed on was that André, this guy works FAST!!
I mean really fast….it surprised me the tempo he works at… and without error too….


Maybe Jurgen's class is about mixing drinks you never know..... ;\)

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#625564 - 01/18/09 02:36 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Fast, fast??? Did I not mention fast? It must have passed me by...

Yes, extremely fast, very precise and with a high degree of continuity. He would be adjusting the rep springs at a breakneck speed, zip, zip, zip, all the while explaining to us how and where and why etc... It was really something to experience...

Acquiring these skills is very conducive to making a decent living in this business...
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#625565 - 01/19/09 11:28 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Originally posted by rysowers:
[QB] Hooray! The website is finally up along with the list of classes! Go to: http://www.ptg.org/conv/2009
Here's another 'heads-up': the "Schedule" link in the center is not active yet, but you can find the class schedule in the PDF version, center button at the top of the class info.
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#625566 - 01/21/09 12:57 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Here is an example of one of the great learning opportunities at this year's convention: A chance to study regulating with Rick Baldassin and other top notch techs from around the country!:


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Are You Regulationally Challenged? with Rick Baldassin, RPT, Renner, USA, Richard Davenport, RPT, Los Angeles Chapter, Michael Spreeman, RPT, Ravenscroft Pianos and Carl Teel, Renner USA[/b]
When trying to remedy an action that does not function properly, a timely and accurate diagnosis is crucial. Ten action models will be prepared to malfunction in a variety of ways. In the first period, class members in small groups will analyze and propose solutions to these problems. In the second period, the proper diagnosis for each model will then be shown, and the model restored to proper function. This format allows plenty of time to discuss function of the principles of grand regulation that relate to each problem. Class limit 30. You must pre-register for this class.
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#625567 - 01/21/09 01:29 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Dang, Ryan...I wanted that one...

But it's only offered on Thursday, and I hope to be in the "37 Steps" class all day.
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#625568 - 01/21/09 01:46 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I sent in my $1,003.00 for my son's and my registration yesterday. I included 3 or 4 of the pre-registration classes for the both of us!! So, I should be good to go!

I decided to have Bill Bremmer tutor him in a one on one class as well.

They have some fabulous classes to choose from! That's the most difficult part of all for me. Let's see, this one is on this day but, I want to go see this one too! Eeeny meenie miney moe...
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#625569 - 01/23/09 10:35 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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And...a bump to announce that the 'Schedule' link is now active!
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#625570 - 01/23/09 12:30 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Well, I just talked with Sandy. Have my reservations confirmed for all "special classes" for my son along with a tuning tutoring class for him as well. HAH, beat you all! I'm good to go!!!

Better call home office and confirm your regulation classes if you reserved times because Sandy said the vertical regulation class was changed to a different day. I suggested they change the other from Thursday to another day because everyone I know is attending the voicing class but, she didn't think they were planning on doing that... Just so you know...
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#625571 - 01/26/09 01:08 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Hot off the press!! At the Grand Rapids Convention there will be an opportunity to participate in "hands-on" mini technical sessions! Here is the current list:

Ron Nossaman – The “hovercraft”, the bridge notcher, and the overhead router.

David Stanwood – Hands-on Touchweight measurements

Vince Mrykalo – Balance rail hole repairs

Keith Kopp – Building the ultimate repair kit

Fred Sturm – Traveling and burning “upside down”. (Tip of the year!)

Gary Dunn – Broken out of the box? New piano checklists

Wim Blees – Vertical damper regulation/repairs

Patrick Draine – Agraffe repair

Jurgen Goering –European repinning using a two foot long pin
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#625572 - 01/26/09 08:40 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I am very interested in some of the classes, but how do I know if I am accepted if there are class size limits? Are most classes just "look and listen" types or are there hands on classes. I would be very unhappy if I arrived there and found out that the classes are full or told they were full and then charged a fee to cancel my registration. I contacted their website through their email address a week ago and never have had a reply. I only can attend for two days and the Thursday and Friday classes are the main reason I want to attend.

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#625573 - 01/26/09 09:57 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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The classes with size limit's, not sure these have any of those requirements, Ryan would know, will be first come first serve. In other words, the first to register and pay.

The others, like the Thursday class on voicing, will be in a larger room capable of handling whoever attends. More than likely anyway... Everyone I know is attending that one!
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#625574 - 01/27/09 01:54 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Originally posted by dherbon:
I am very interested in some of the classes, but how do I know if I am accepted if there are class size limits? Are most classes just "look and listen" types or are there hands on classes. I would be very unhappy if I arrived there and found out that the classes are full or told they were full and then charged a fee to cancel my registration. I contacted their website through their email address a week ago and never have had a reply. I only can attend for two days and the Thursday and Friday classes are the main reason I want to attend. [/b]
dherbon,

I just submitted your question to the rest of the committee. I'll post the answer when I hear back. Good question, by the way!
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#625575 - 01/31/09 10:51 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Tough Times Don’t Last…Tough People Do!
52nd Annual PTG Convention & Technical Institute
July 15 - 19, 2009
Grand Rapids, MI

www.ptg.org/conv/2009

Race the clock! Registration starts February 1.
Go to www.ptg.org/conv/2009 to register online or download a registration form. Register NOW to get the best rate and ensure your spot on the starting line. Watch your mail for the 2009 brochure. Coming Soon!

Strengthen your skills!
Go to www.ptg.org/conv/institute and search the class database by instructor, day, time, topic, or level of instruction. Create a plan that is unique to your “fitness” goals.

Cool down in comfort!
Make your hotel reservations NOW. Reservations can only be made by calling the historic Amway Grand Plaza at 800-253-3590 or 616-776-6450. Use code 1000LT to get the PTG discounted rate. Online registration is not available this year but plenty of rooms are available! Special PTG rates are only guaranteed through June 10. Visit www.ptg.org/conv/2009/lodging to learn more about the Amway Grand, parking and transportation.

Stretch your dollars!
Can One Class Pay For Convention? [/b]
I often hear technicians say they can’t afford to attend the annual PTG Institute. Sorry, but that’s comparable to being a fitness “couch potato,” especially to those new to this industry. The truth is that attending the Institute will enable you to make more money. How?

I had been a technician for about five years when I attended an Institute with the sole purpose of improving my aural tuning skills. I attended almost every aural tuning class offered. Did my tuning skills improve? Certainly, but that was not what caused an increase in my income. What caused the increase? During classes, I noticed motions and techniques instructors were using that I was not using. By applying what I saw, within three months my tuning time was lessened by 20 minutes. My tunings were better and completed in less time.

Let’s see – 20 minutes times 600 tunings per year equals $12,000 PER YEAR! Did that institute pay for itself? Many, many times over! And that was income for just one year. That one Institute alone has paid for all the Institutes held for the rest of my life.

That year, I was still building my business and income was quite tight. What if I had said, “I just can’t afford to attend this year?” I would likely still be saying it.

What's your financial fitness plan? The theme this year is “Excellence Begins with the Basics” but that doesn’t mean that the experienced technician won’t be challenged at this year’s institute. Learn excellence from many of the best in our industry and you will reap the benefits for the rest of your career.

Online registration starts February 1! Visit www.ptg.org/conv/2009 or watch your mail for the convention brochure. We will have many NEW classes, the return of the popular skills stations, multi-session classes, mini-techs, and more of what you need for your continued professional development. Some have limited class sizes and fill up fast, so register NOW!

See you there!
Ward Guthrie, RPT
Institute Director
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#625576 - 01/31/09 11:02 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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 Quote:
Originally posted by dherbon:
I am very interested in some of the classes, but how do I know if I am accepted if there are class size limits? Are most classes just "look and listen" types or are there hands on classes. I would be very unhappy if I arrived there and found out that the classes are full or told they were full and then charged a fee to cancel my registration. I contacted their website through their email address a week ago and never have had a reply. I only can attend for two days and the Thursday and Friday classes are the main reason I want to attend. [/b]
The class size limits are listed on the online registration form.

If you are registering online, when any of the classes fill up, they will show up as FULL on the website registration.
If it is a mail-in, we can add them to a waiting list. We will refund their money if they don't get in, or not charge their card, depending on how they pay. Of course this is just for the extra fee for the skills session not convention registration.

So the main thing is if you're interested in these classes Register early![/b] \:\)
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#625577 - 02/09/09 08:14 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Here is an updated description of an exciting class being offered by renowned authority on piano touch, David Standwood! One more great reason to attend the Grand Rapids conference![/b]

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#1154951 - 02/28/09 10:27 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: rysowers]
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Hello all, this may be as good a place as any to formally introduce myself, though I have been reading this forum for the past 6 months.

My name is Jon, I'm from Milwaukee, WI and I think that's where I may start up my business in the near future. I'm going through the Chicago School of Piano Technology first year course as we speak. And yes, I have a thread-relevant question.

This will be my first national convention, and because of budget concerns, I might only attend using the weekend pass. Most of the institute classes do not have date/time designations. I'm wondering if there is a place on the convention website that lists dates/times for these courses that I have missed, or if they are held everyday of the convention? The answer will greatly affect my decision of attending only the weekend or shelling out the dough for the whole week.

Thanks again guys, I've gathered some great tips/advise thus far in my short residency on this forum, and I appreciate all the help I can get. I hope to meet some of you pros in G.R. in July!
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#1154965 - 02/28/09 11:03 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: Jon Farah]
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Hi Jon, welcome out into the light!!

At the convention site, click on "Institute", at the top theres a buttong that says "Download PDF class grid". That will give you the schedule for the classes.
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#1155016 - 03/01/09 02:09 AM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: JDelmore]
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Dang, I knew I missed something obvious...thanks JD!
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#1180214 - 04/14/09 12:34 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: Jon Farah]
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Just a reminder that airfares are pretty reasonable right now for flying to Grand Rapids. Don't put it off any longer - book your flight today!

I look forward to seeing you there!
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#1180269 - 04/14/09 02:05 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: rysowers]
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HA!! Got my train tickets in the mail last week!! Cheaper still than flying, even with the roomette!! Eh...of course, I'm in one of those "can't get there from here" air markets...

I'm so looking forward to GR...
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#1180293 - 04/14/09 02:39 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: JDelmore]
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Me to...got an airline ticket. It would take me 36 hours to get to GR by train. Heck I bet I could make it faster by bus, but I swore those off years ago. So on a wing and a prayer, GR here I come. Jerry Groot, put a fresh coat of piant on the doghouse!!!

JD, are you going to be testing while in GR?
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#1180295 - 04/14/09 02:54 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: Ron Alexander]
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I'm thinking next year for the exams, Ron. Maybe get two done before and try for the foundation scholarship!! Then, God willing and the Creek don't rise, the next year, I'll get free registration as a "fresh RPT"!! Two years of "free" convention!!

Since I will be taking vacation time from my 'other' job, I'm gonna consider the 30-hour (each way) trip "vacation" (yes...the Texas Eagle has a "bar-car"...LOL!!).
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#1180370 - 04/14/09 05:06 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: JDelmore]
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The dog house is setting in the yard and ready to go just for you Ron! Only one thing left yet. Gotta remember to buy you some dog food!!!
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#1180557 - 04/14/09 11:18 PM Re: 2009 PTG Technical Institute - July 15-19 Grand Rapids, Michigan [Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Woof woof
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