Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Let Your Piano Sing
Let Your Piano Sing
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
93 registered (ambrozy, alwatson, augustm, ando, alerique, acortot, 20 invisible), 1246 Guests and 5 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3
Topic Options
#2029360 - 02/08/13 03:11 PM Re: Stringing scale irregularities/Restring Questions [Re: Ryan Marlow]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
Here you can see the tension of a 1925 grand piano Pleyel
mod 3 -1925

A high tension scale mounted with a softer wire than Roslau

See how the solicitation lower (but stay accepteable) with modern wire


Then, a Boesendorfer 190 - year 1915


less long strings, moderate tension , no correction of the plate breaks on the bridge

Edited by Olek (02/08/13 03:50 PM)
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2029759 - 02/09/13 09:09 AM Re: Stringing scale irregularities/Restring Questions [Re: Ryan Marlow]
NCP Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/29/13
Posts: 7
Thank you BDB and Olek ! I have SO much to learn !

I will mic the uppermost wound string and apply that equation and respond after work today if I can.

The other question I asked was this:
This is exactly the information I needed to hear ! SO, if I understand correctly, I should make adjustments to my "tweaked" scale, to a "final" scale using even numbers of unisons while still attempting to retain the most even pounds of tension, right ?

I hope that is the correct theory, but any input would be very much welcomed and appreciated!

Thank you ALL for your help !

#2030005 - 02/09/13 06:02 PM Re: Stringing scale irregularities/Restring Questions [Re: BDB]
NCP Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/29/13
Posts: 7
OK.... using your wound string conversion, my uppermost wound string is .0575 (57.5 - 5)/2 = 26.250 gauge. With my string length for that note and this 26.25 theoretical guage, the spreadsheet shows 165.148 pounds. The first wire @ #18 shows 162.305 pounds. As I said before, the tension only varies 9 pounds from bottom to top wire (29 - 88).

Does that suggest I am there and ready to string this piano? I think I am to that point, but just wanted your professional opinion.

Again, thanks for sharing the spreadsheet and for all of your advise !


#2030027 - 02/09/13 07:09 PM Re: Stringing scale irregularities/Restring Questions [Re: Ryan Marlow]
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 24241
Loc: Oakland
That looks good. It is hard to get that close on many pianos.
Semipro Tech

(ad 568)
PTG Journal Online
PTG Journal Online
#2030043 - 02/09/13 07:48 PM Re: Stringing scale irregularities/Restring Questions [Re: BDB]
NCP Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/29/13
Posts: 7
Thank you very much for your help and patience ! I could never have done it without the spreadsheet !

As it turned out, I had to adjust the scale slightly to gain an even number of unisons with each wire size and ended up with a variation of 13.3 pounds from top wire to smallest wound string, but I trust that will suffice.

Once again, thank you to all who assisted me with this learning process !


Page 3 of 3 < 1 2 3

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Some New Piano World STATS

Posting Pictures on the Forums
Forums Rules & Help
on Piano World

Piano Classified Ads
Piano Lamps
Piano Lamp by cocoweb - free shipping
New in Piano World's online store PianoSupplies.com, beautiful piano lamps from cocoweb. Free shipping! (continental U.S.).
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.

Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Yale School of Music Audition: Bachelors
by I like Piano
37 minutes 25 seconds ago
Ervin Nyiregyhazi plays Chopin's Black Key Etude in 1929
by Michael Sayers
Today at 01:56 AM
Kawai CS11 MIDI bug? / Quicco Sound mi.1 wireless MIDI
by Stephen Bee
Yesterday at 09:17 PM
First Real Piano
by dpkowal
Yesterday at 09:09 PM
Sheet Music
by Michael Choe
Yesterday at 07:52 PM
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Stats
85,366 Registered Members
44 Forums
175,982 Topics
2,566,127 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |

copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission