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#633958 - 02/07/09 09:25 PM Do you recommend A440 or A442
Magz Offline
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 88
Loc: Illinois
OK, I'm going to tune my piano tomorrow. I've been talking about this, reading about this, watching videos about this and purchasing equipment for this and now is the time to do it. My only question is this...

My piano, a 5'9" grand, is two years old and was tuned at A442. Should I keep it tuned to 442 or should I bring it down to 440?

To answer anyone's question .. Why are you tuning your own piano, the answer is quite simple. I enjoy learning new things. Knowing what makes things work. Keeping my mind busy. It's a new adventure and my latest challenge. You got to admit, there are worse things to do in life. I am son interested in this instrument, I am also a adult student of piano, that I have contacted the local PTG and will be at a meeting later this month.

Oh, by the way, if Ron Tuner is reading this, GREAT VIDEOS. Cudos on a job well done. Bill Bremmer, thanks for making your website available for downloads on tuning. Very interesting and helpful.


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#633959 - 02/08/09 05:54 PM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
Steve W Offline
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Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 250
Loc: Omaha, NE
OK, to get this rolling, I'll bite: Why exactly was your piano tuned to A=442?
Steve W
Omaha, NE

#633960 - 02/08/09 07:49 PM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
rysowers Offline
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2672
Loc: Olympia, WA
If you like the idea of tuning it to 442 then by all means tune it to 442. It certainly won't hurt the piano. It is not uncommon to hear about concert halls that want pianos tuned at 442 or even 443.

I don't think anyone can really answer this question for you - its going to come down to personal preference and taste. I suggest following your intuition.

One thing to consider however is that leaving it at 442 could be a problem when playing with other instruments that might have difficulty playing sharp. I've had flute players complain about 442 before.

If it was my own piano and the tuning was basically good but the pitch was at 442, I would leave it.
Ryan Sowers,
Pianova Piano Service
Olympia, WA

#633961 - 02/08/09 08:27 PM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
Keith Roberts Offline
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Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 1988
Loc: Murphys, Ca
If you want to play with recordings, 440. Guitar tuners are set for 440. Screw them, they can retune by ear. All the electronic boards are 440.

The problem is when you go out of the range of the various instruments. Horn players need different length spacers to achieve different ranges of pitch. They lengthen or shorten the tube they blow through. Then to compound things, they go in the opposite direction to the piano when the temperature changes. So as the piano and string instruments goes flat due to the heat from stage light and audience, the horns are going sharp. Very quickly you can go out of the range of some instruments. The flute players complain the most. They don't like playing with stringed instruments.
Keith Roberts
Keith's Piano Service
Hathaway Pines,Ca

#633962 - 02/09/09 09:02 AM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
Magz Offline
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Registered: 05/10/08
Posts: 88
Loc: Illinois
I did'nt tune to A442 my tuner did. He told me that the strings would stretch, because of the newness of the instrument and that 442 would eventually stretch closer to pitch that 440.

I tuned my piano Sunday to A440 and did not keep his pitch

#633963 - 02/09/09 11:22 AM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
John Dutton Offline
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Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 251
Loc: Billings, MT
Originally posted by Keith Roberts:
snip The flute players complain the most. They don't like playing with stringed instruments. [/b]
The high frequencies go to their brains....
Piano Technician
Pro horn player
Recording Engineer

#633964 - 02/09/09 05:59 PM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
LJC Offline
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1549
Loc: New York
S&S tunes to 442 in Europe but 440 in the US. I asked my tuner about this and he thinks that the extra tension is not good. myself I doubt it makes much difference.

#633965 - 02/09/09 09:22 PM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
daniokeeper Offline
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Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 1119
Loc: PA
At Steinway's web-site:

Your Steinway piano was tuned many times before it left our factory. It was tuned to and should be maintained at a 440 pitch for New York models or 443 pitch for Hamburg models. These are the internationally accepted standards and the standards for which all Steinway pianos are engineered.
Joe Gumbosky
Piano Tuning & Repair

#633966 - 02/10/09 07:57 AM Re: Do you recommend A440 or A442
Supply Offline
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Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 3919
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
Don't get too worried about the pitch. If it is your first tuning of your own piano, the tuning will end up being A-440 +/- 4 Hz anyway.
Jurgen Goering
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