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#637934 - 02/10/07 05:59 PM Fujan tuning lever
Polka Offline
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Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 80
Loc: San Jose, CA, USA
Hi all,

A lot of people are talking about Fujan tuning lever. I wonder where you can buy it. I didn't see it in the catalog from 2 of my regular supply houses.

Thanks
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#637935 - 02/10/07 08:42 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Grandpianoman Offline
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#637936 - 02/11/07 07:00 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Polka Offline
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Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 80
Loc: San Jose, CA, USA
Thanks, grandpianoman.

I didn't know Fujan is so pricy.
Maybe it's not for me, for now.
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#637937 - 02/11/07 07:14 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
RoyP Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 783
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I was thinking of buying one, but I already have 4 hammers, so it's hard to justify. I probabaly will though. \:\) Usually I keep one in the shop, one stashed in the car(in case I ever forget my tool bag. Don't laugh, it happens), one in the truck, and one that I carry around. Remember, you can never have too many tools.... That's what I keep telling my wife.
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Live Performance LX Installation
www.cincypiano.com

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#637938 - 02/11/07 11:31 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
LisztAddict Offline
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Registered: 12/12/05
Posts: 2895
Loc: Florida
 Quote:
Originally posted by RoyP:
... you can never have too many tools....[/b]
Very true \:D

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#637939 - 02/20/07 05:09 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Mark Purney Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 373
Loc: Mesa, AZ
:p


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#637940 - 02/20/07 05:16 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Anne Francis Offline
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 548
Loc: Toronto, ON
Mark, my boss's new Fujan looks identical to yours.

You lucky duck. I want one! I'm saving up.
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#637941 - 02/21/07 09:11 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
accordeur Online   content
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1118
Loc: Québec, Canada
I had the aluminum, loved it. Bought the carbon fiber, love it even more. I'll never go back to a regular hammer. Extra extensions are great also. The lever costs about the price of 4 tunings, so to me that's not that expensive.
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Jean Poulin

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#637942 - 02/21/07 09:53 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Dave Lotek Offline
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 78
Loc: midwest
I'm planning to purchase one too. I emailed Steve to see if I could get one with a screw top so I can store a tuning fork and mutes inside.
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#637943 - 02/21/07 10:06 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1118
Loc: Québec, Canada
The handle and head are both screw tops, but there is not as much room in there as the aluminum, I think your fork and mutes would just get stuck in there.
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Jean Poulin

Musician, Tuner and Technician

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#637944 - 02/21/07 12:32 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Roy123 Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 1695
Loc: Massachusetts
Just out of curiosity, what's the OD of the graphite shaft?

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#637945 - 02/21/07 12:53 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
accordeur Online   content
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1118
Loc: Québec, Canada
I guess you mean outside diameter? If so it's exactly 1.175 inches.
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#637946 - 02/21/07 10:29 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
RoyP Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 783
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
My Fujan arrived today. It looks great. I'll take it out for a test drive tomorrow.

Really, this is one area where I think that we as technicians should splurge and get the best tuning hammer we can possibly buy. There is no tool that is in our hands more, or will make more of a difference in our daily lives. In comparison to how much use it will get, the cost is pretty small.
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Live Performance LX Installation
www.cincypiano.com

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#637947 - 02/22/07 10:54 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Les Koltvedt Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 3195
Loc: Canton, MI
Mark Purney... does that carry case come with the hammer? THey don't show it on the web site... only a tan leather one, kinda looks like a bow quiver.
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LK Piano
Servicing the S. Eastern Michigan Area
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#637948 - 02/22/07 01:03 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
MDM Offline
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Registered: 03/17/04
Posts: 73
Loc: Michigan
Mark Purney... does that carry case come with the hammer? They don't show it on the web site... only a tan leather one, kinda looks like a bow quiver.

If not, where do you buy it from? How much?
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Mark's Piano Service
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Catch the trade winds in your sails.
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#637949 - 02/22/07 06:40 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Jim Frazee Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 392
Loc: Westchester County, New York
The tan leather case Steve sells is absolutely perfect - compartmentalized inside to hold another tube. And, soft? As I told Steve, some days I'd like to sleep in there! Mark's case is actually a knife case, I think, but I forget where he got it . . . Get a Fujan carbon fiber - best hammer money can buy, period, end of story.
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Teacher, performer, technician
Westchester County, NY

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#637950 - 02/23/07 09:05 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
RoyP Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 783
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I put the Fujan through the paces yesterday, and am really impressed so far. The thing that suprised me was how much I liked the weight. I knew it wouldn't be as heavy, but I didn't think that it would make much of a difference. It really made it easier to tune quickly. Also, something about the shape of the head and tip made it easier for me to move from note to note. Maybe part of that is the weight and balance of it. I had a long day yesterday, with too much to do... A couple of concert tunings, and then three other grands that were off pitch and need to be tuned twice. Also, a couple of hundred miles of driving total. It would have been much more difficult to get it all done with my regular hammer. I am very happy with this purchase.
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Live Performance LX Installation
www.cincypiano.com

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#637951 - 02/26/07 10:27 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Mark Purney Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 373
Loc: Mesa, AZ
Yes, the case I bought is a padded knife case:
http://www.maxpedition.com/product/product_case_r14.htm

I didn't realize Steve's carrying quiver was leather, or I may have been more inclined to try that one first. It almost looks like fabric in the photo.
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#637952 - 04/15/07 04:07 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Hongzhi Mo Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Shanghai
After so many comments, and gives myself a cooling down period of 2 month, I cannot resist myself to put an order today, although I have already have a watanabe hammer (an immovable, 2# tip, which i bought it as the cheapest watanabe), and only tune no more than three pianos per month...
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73!

Dr Hongzhi Mo
Lecturer

Architecture Dept., FINE ART COLLEGE
SHANGHAI UNIVERSITY
99 Shang Da Road, 200436
Shanghai, China

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#637953 - 04/15/07 05:24 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
R Barber Offline
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Registered: 08/12/05
Posts: 141
Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
I think I want one too now. Don't tell my wife.
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Santa Clara Valley, CA
tune@pianoregulation.com

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#637954 - 04/15/07 06:41 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Hongzhi Mo Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Shanghai
Now it really bothered me by the old watanabe hammer, for the feeling of the first half steel, and second half wood handle is too soft by fine tuning with tunelab.

Hope the fujan can help, waiting the parcel...
:-)
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De BG4AWB
73!

Dr Hongzhi Mo
Lecturer

Architecture Dept., FINE ART COLLEGE
SHANGHAI UNIVERSITY
99 Shang Da Road, 200436
Shanghai, China

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#637955 - 04/15/07 09:34 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Let the Piano Play Offline
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Registered: 04/14/07
Posts: 45
Hello Everybody,

Anybody that's already use the Fujan Tuning Lever, do you need any additional parts than the default package? I am thinking to get one, its quite pricey for my situation, but I think I should get it anyway. If the default package get the most job done, then I will only get this package, but if I need more parts, then anybody could recommend me which one should I get? Thank you.

Bernard Soetarman
Piano Technician

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#637956 - 04/15/07 11:09 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
RoyP Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 783
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I bought the standard package, with the shortest shaft. 15 degree angle, and the 1" #2 tip. No extension tip or anything. It has worked fine on all the pianos I have tuned since. This is really a nice tool.
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Cincinnati, Ohio
Live Performance LX Installation
www.cincypiano.com

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#637957 - 04/16/07 02:46 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Hongzhi Mo Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Shanghai
I do also choose the standard package with 13 inch overall length.
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De BG4AWB
73!

Dr Hongzhi Mo
Lecturer

Architecture Dept., FINE ART COLLEGE
SHANGHAI UNIVERSITY
99 Shang Da Road, 200436
Shanghai, China

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#637958 - 04/16/07 08:14 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Let the Piano Play Offline
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Registered: 04/14/07
Posts: 45
Hello Roy,

Do you work more on upright or grand, or both?
Thank you.

Bernard Soetarman
Piano Technician

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#637959 - 04/16/07 09:02 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Hongzhi Mo Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Shanghai
I put an inquiry before decided, and Steve replied as follow, cause I cannot find such description on his website, hopefully what he replied will also give us some idea.


Subject: Re: EMAILER: common hammer?
The most popular configuration is the default choices on the website, which is the 15 degree head, the 13" overall length, and the #2 tip. This works well for the majority of my customers. Some customers choose to add the 5/8" tip extension for more strut clearance.

The 5 degree head is preferred by some, but most likely would require the 5/8" tip extension for general use. The advantage of less head angle is that the knob end of the lever is closer to the plane of the pin block. This causes less prying effect (flagpoling) on the tuning pin. Less prying effect reduces friction and increases control. The disadvantage is that the tip extension (or long tip) adds weight at the head of the lever.

Thank you for inquiring.

Best Regards,
Steve Fujan
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De BG4AWB
73!

Dr Hongzhi Mo
Lecturer

Architecture Dept., FINE ART COLLEGE
SHANGHAI UNIVERSITY
99 Shang Da Road, 200436
Shanghai, China

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#637960 - 04/21/07 11:33 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Let the Piano Play Offline
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Registered: 04/14/07
Posts: 45
Hongzhi Mo,

Have you receive the tuning lever? Let me know how it goes ...

I just wanna be more convinced before I put an order.

Now, I am using Schaff Rosewood Premium Tuning Lever and I cut the rod by about 1 inch and I position the tuning tip very close and touching the lever and never extended. It reduce the flex so much and I actually felt no flex.

I think it's time to get a better tuning lever if there is any on the market. My Shaff tuning lever is still in a perfect shape and I like it so much, but I never really try any other tuning lever other than the cheapest tuning lever from shaff, student tuning lever, I think and this lever drove me crazy because it flex so much.

A lot of piano tuner talk about this Fujan tuning lever and everybody seems very happy with this product.

Any body could tell me more about Fujan Tuning Experiences?

Bernard Soetarman
Piano Technician

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#637961 - 04/22/07 03:44 AM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Hongzhi Mo Offline
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Registered: 12/24/06
Posts: 89
Loc: Shanghai
Yes yes, I got it yesterday, and tried it on my piano ASAP I opened the parcel. After 5 minutes to 'break in'-which I mean to get used to its shape - it moves from tip to tip really faster than ever. And really stiff and light. No more over tuning by a heavier hammer will be. More power, more tuning, and less power, less tuning. It is so easily be controled.

I imaged it as a faber carbon tennis racket, and it really feels like a faber carbon tennis racket.






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De BG4AWB
73!

Dr Hongzhi Mo
Lecturer

Architecture Dept., FINE ART COLLEGE
SHANGHAI UNIVERSITY
99 Shang Da Road, 200436
Shanghai, China

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#637962 - 04/22/07 01:41 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Anne Francis Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 548
Loc: Toronto, ON
I finally ordered mine this week. I've used my boss's quite a bit in the shop. I also have the Huether-Saucier Wonder Wand, which is ok, but the Fujan is much better. It's like night and day. You can feel exactly where to put the pin, because there is no flex in the shaft. (You can't imagine the difference until you try it.) I still use the Wonder Wand at the treble end where there's not much clearance room on some grand pianos.

I also got TuneLab Pocket this week. I've been saving up for both of these and now feel that much closer to actually starting my business.
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#637963 - 04/22/07 03:35 PM Re: Fujan tuning lever
Sam Casey Offline
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Registered: 02/05/05
Posts: 1135
Loc: SW Missouri
I have a Hale, purchased 1975, #2 tip and I've used it for roughly 35,000 pianos and still do today. I tried out a Fujan a dealer friend had and just couldn't get along with it. Dynamics were completely different and I had difficult controlling it. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess.

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