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#645796 - 11/21/06 11:17 PM Quick question regarding hide glue...
Zormpas Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
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Loc: Monterey, Ca
Just finished up rebushing the keys on my 1918 Hobart M. Cable "H". I have a quantity of hide glue that is now gelled in its covered jar - it has already been re-warmed twice.

How long can it be kept in this state and still be usable? And how should I store it.

TIA...
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#645797 - 11/21/06 11:26 PM Re: Quick question regarding hide glue...
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#645798 - 11/22/06 12:07 AM Re: Quick question regarding hide glue...
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I've had some glues mold in a few days and some last for two weeks. A tech suggested using a drop or two of camphor oil so the oder isn't objectionable and it keeps the mold away longer.
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#645799 - 11/22/06 01:42 AM Re: Quick question regarding hide glue...
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Gelled hide glue can be kept in the fridge for some time, perhaps a few weeks. Why don't you experiment and try putting some in the freezer for two weeks, testing it afterwards, and posting results to the list?
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#645800 - 11/22/06 06:29 AM Re: Quick question regarding hide glue...
Larry Buck Offline
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Registered: 10/27/04
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Here in the N East, hide glue gets moldy after a couple of days.

Older glue becomes a darker brown color. I don't like working with it at that point. It seems less tacky in a way and and less forgiving.

Best way to know is to try it.
I like Jurgen's recommendation.

There is a chapter on hide glue in "Piano Tone Building" Recently edited and released by Del Fandrich. There was very good information on hide glue.
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#645801 - 11/22/06 07:41 AM Re: Quick question regarding hide glue...
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Registered: 12/10/03
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
As Jurgen said, it can be kept in the refrigerator. It will start to look nasty after a time. You will know. I would only use the stored glue for things like keybushings that don't require as much strength. If hanging hammers, I always make up a new batch, because it's a more critical application.
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