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#654981 - 04/04/03 08:39 AM Ballet, anyone?
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which ballet do you think had the best music?

#654982 - 04/04/03 11:34 AM Re: Ballet, anyone?
mrenaud Online   content
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The Rite of Spring, of course.
I have an ice cream. I cannot mail it, for it will melt.

#654983 - 04/16/03 05:10 PM Re: Ballet, anyone?
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Or Agon, or Apollon Musagete or Orpheus.

#1464547 - 06/28/10 06:21 PM Re: Ballet, anyone? [Re: magnezium]
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Romeo and Juliet
The Nutcracker
Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the space between the notes and curl my back to loneliness.
Maya Angelou

#1466155 - 07/01/10 04:16 AM Re: Ballet, anyone? [Re: Ejay]
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I play in a ballet orchestra. Here goes:

Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet is the more exciting score, Cinderella is more perfect as a whole, if that means anything to anyone.
Tchaikovsky: All three (Sleeping Beauty, Swan Lake, Nutcracker) have great music. My favorite to play is Sleeping Beauty, although some of my colleagues refer to it as Sleeping Duty.
Stravinsky: While I have played a few Rites of Spring, I believe that anything resembling the original choreography is lost, which means that the versions that get done are freshly choreographed. No clear winner has emerged.
Of the Stravinskys, my favorite to play is Apollon Musagete, Balanchine's Apollo. My other favorite Balanchine to play is Symphony in C, Bizet's Symphony. Great fun,and once you've seen the choreography that goes with it, any simply concert performance of it will seem lacking.
Copellia (Delibes) has great tunes which everyone knows from elevator rides in classy shopping centers, or from being put on hold by customer service.
Giselle (Adam)I find kind of dreary, but some of the characteristic numbers are kind of fun.
My most detested is Don Quixote (Minkus). It's just too long and tiring to play. I'm a viola player, so that means 95 pages of off-beats, mostly being the note "g" if I remember correctly.

Edited by andrew f (07/01/10 04:42 AM)

#1518743 - 09/19/10 10:41 PM Re: Ballet, anyone? [Re: andrew f]
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Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet and Cinderella.

Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty plus ballets mentioned by Andrew.

Andrew, I've studied ballet for many years and have gone to many performances - and have often thought about the "music makers" - could you tell us what it's like to play for the ballet - thanks

#1518907 - 09/20/10 07:55 AM Re: Ballet, anyone? [Re: magnezium]
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Registered: 04/26/08
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Loc: Bucuresti, Romania
Bach - Great Fugue BWV564 ?

seriously, the latest Balanchine-licensed ballet performance here in Bucuresti had a nice recording of this (from a large true pipe organ, with little flaws and all that) and a complex abstract 3F+3M ballet crafted 'on top' of it.

#1531519 - 10/09/10 08:40 AM Re: Ballet, anyone? [Re: musdan]
andrew f Offline
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Originally Posted By: musdan
Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet and Cinderella.

Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty plus ballets mentioned by Andrew.

Andrew, I've studied ballet for many years and have gone to many performances - and have often thought about the "music makers" - could you tell us what it's like to play for the ballet - thanks

I played in a "regular" symphony orchestra for 17 years before I switched to my current gig. My old colleagues generally thought I was insane, i.e. giving up being in the spotlight and descending into the pit, and fulfilling what is generally considered to be be a supporting role.
I've never given that a second thought, perhaps because I've played everything from the standard symphonic repertoire multiple times over the years. I don't think I've missed out on anything.
The music my orchestra plays stretches from the glorious (Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev ballets, Stravinsky/Balanchine) to the less exalted (Minkus, Delibes, Adam) to the dreary. Many modern ballet scores are grab-bags of movements from various sources. Certain pieces turn up disconcertingly often in works of various choreographers.
One thing that did surprise me when I was new on the job was that there is next to no interaction between the dancers and the musicians. Could just be where I work, but I have often wondered if it's the same elsewhere.


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