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#656250 - 03/27/06 09:02 PM Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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Registered: 03/25/06
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Loc: Pennsylvania, USA
Hi everyone. I'm new in this forum. I've been living with Yamaha products for years.
(1) I'm thinking to get a digital piano about the same budget as Yamaha P-140 and considering Kawai MP4 and a Roland product. Can anyone suggest a Roland model similar to Kawai MP4?
(2) I'll place this digital piano at the basement studio connected to a mixer or receiver so I don't need fancy built-in speakers or piano cabinet. I have a Yamaha tone generator and computer that I'll connect the piano. Realistic piano sound, piano touch-feeling and midi compatibility are the priorities. Is the touch feeling of Kawai MP4 more superior than Yamaha P-140 ?
(3) Does anyone know the acousic piano model that Roland uses to sample its digital pianos?
Thank you.

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#656251 - 03/27/06 09:22 PM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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Registered: 07/15/05
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Loc: caxias do sul
I have an Mp4.. its a very good digital piano, perfect for gig´s just because its sound´s great on stage.

I think its better than any stage piano on the same level, $1000-$1300 .. but i am sure that is much better than roland Fp2 and RD170

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#656252 - 03/27/06 09:58 PM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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Hi pikmin, welcome to the forum!

I read on some other thread here not long ago that Roland uses the Steinway D. Can't tell you if that's accurate or not. I know that I love the sound of the Rolands. Check out the Adult Beginner forum recital thread (stickied to the top of the list) and then listen to mr_super-hunky's and seaside lee's selections; they were both recorded on a Roland. There were other digital piano brands represented on the recital thread as well.

Good luck!
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#656253 - 03/27/06 11:16 PM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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Registered: 09/24/04
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Originally posted by Monica Kern:
Hi pikmin, welcome to the forum!

I read on some other thread here not long ago that Roland uses the Steinway D. Can't tell you if that's accurate or not. I know that I love the sound of the Rolands. Check out the Adult Beginner forum recital thread (stickied to the top of the list) and then listen to mr_super-hunky's and seaside lee's selections; they were both recorded on a Roland. There were other digital piano brands represented on the recital thread as well.

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Hey all,

I can most definitely confirm that the piano used for the core samples for the Roland HP Series was in fact the Steinway D.

A very similar core sample would have been the one used on mr hunky's and seaside lee's recordings. (IIRC they both have KR-7's)

In terms of a Roland instrument similar to that of Kawai's MP-4, I would reccommend checking out the RD-700SX (slighty more $$$ I think) But you must play the "Superior Grand" and "X-Ultimate Grand" piano samples on board. Both sounds feature all 88 Keys sampled at 4 velocities. (I personally prefer the Superior Grand for live use and the X-Ultimate for solo playing) If your budget is less than that of the RD-700SX, try the RD-300SX that has the X-Ultimate sound.


Some like the sound some don't, bottom line is it's your ears assessing the sound and your fingers making it, so get what speaks to you..

PPBC

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#656254 - 03/28/06 10:47 AM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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Registered: 06/24/05
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Just make sure you verify every sound through your very own familiar headphones. Stereo analysis and judgement of each sound sample is the most serious consideration for recording; playing aspects come second. Give the Roland "superior grand" a good listen. Compare it to the Yamaha P140. Make a decision.
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#656255 - 03/28/06 08:49 PM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
puff Offline
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Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 152
Loc: oxford UK
The MP4 acoustic piano reminds me of the sample on the Kurz PC2X but its realy three-dimentional whereas the Kurz tired the ears pretty quickly.
The Rhodes is very playable and the MP4 has more effects to put it through (Ive got the ES4- effects on this are pretty basic.)
I dont know why people rave about the RD700sx piano even though they sampled every note they did not end up with a result thats perfect by a long way.
I sold the SX but the ES4 is staying - it was a hard choice deciding between that and the MP4 though.

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#656256 - 03/29/06 08:30 AM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
PianoBar Offline
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Registered: 07/15/05
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The piano sound on the mp4 is calculated by a complex algorithm, that´s why the sample loop isnt noticiable.

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#656257 - 03/29/06 10:55 AM Re: Roland digital piano comparable with Kawai MP4
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I dont know why people rave about the RD700sx piano even though they sampled every note they did not end up with a result thats perfect by a long way.
Perfect? No. But it's the best on the market to my ears.
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