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#657871 - 02/01/09 01:32 PM Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Terimr Offline
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Registered: 03/22/08
Posts: 100
Loc: Rochester, MI
I hope this is the right forum to post my latest recording dilemma..

I have a Casio PX-320 and have recorded a song to a memory card (through port right on keyboard). It is in MIDI format. I have downloaded Audacity software for my PC and was told this should be able to convert my MIDI files to Mp3.

For some reason unknown to me, this is not working. I open the file and it doesn't play the song. I've saved it as Mp3 and it still doesn't play the song. Is there anyone who can provide a cliff note version as to how to get this to work??

I am frustrated with reading lengthy help screens with vocabulary I am totally unfamiliar with..and have spent hours doing so.. yikes

If anyone can help or point me to a thread that explains, I would greatly appreciate this!

Thanks in advance!

Teri

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#657872 - 02/01/09 01:56 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Horwinkle Offline
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Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 1011
You don't convert MIDI to MP3. MIDI files contain no sound at all. They just capture the keys that you have pressed on the keyboard. You need an "instrument" to play the MIDI on, such as your DP or a synth program of some kind.

True, the average PC sound card has MIDI playback capability, but the sound is usually poor (unless you buy an upgrade sound card).

I see that the PX-320 has Aux Out jacks. Take that audio output and feed it to the Aux In jacks on your PC sound card. Play anything on the DP and use a PC recording program to capture and record the sound to MP3.

If you've already saved the MIDI ... can you play it back on your DP? If so, capture the sound output as described above.

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#657873 - 02/01/09 02:03 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Terimr Offline
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Registered: 03/22/08
Posts: 100
Loc: Rochester, MI
Thank you L. HOrwinkle.. I will try this!

I had saved the MIDI file from my sound card onto my PC. Then I tried to convert to Mp3 (which did not work). I gather this is not the way to do it.

I will try recording from my DP directly into my PC by connecting the two. I hope Audacity works under those circumstances.

Thanks again,

Teri

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#657874 - 02/01/09 02:31 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
LesCharles73 Offline
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Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 739
Loc: Denton Texas
Audacity has worked under those circumstances for me.
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#657875 - 02/01/09 04:59 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
EP Offline
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Registered: 04/20/06
Posts: 344
Loc: USA
Actually there are any number of software programs available that will convert midi to mp3.
Google something like "midi mp3 converter" and you will find loads of them.
Plus, they do it virtually, much quicker than real-time like you have to do if you play it through an instrument or sound module.

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#657876 - 02/01/09 08:35 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Terimr Offline
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Registered: 03/22/08
Posts: 100
Loc: Rochester, MI
Thanks. I did just that and downloaded AVS converter which i thought was free, but not the case.... Next, I will move my keyboard next to my PC and hook up just like L Horwinkle said to do..

Although I consider myself a smart person, I realize just how "dumb" I really am when it comes to this stuff.

I could always go to my guitar center to see if a keyboard expert could show me how to do it.

Thanks,

Teri

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#657877 - 02/01/09 08:58 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
bluekeys Offline
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Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 1337
This might help:

Link

Be patient. Once you succeed, you'll look back and wonder how you ever thought it was hard. \:\)

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#657878 - 02/01/09 10:51 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Glenn NK Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 457
Loc: Victoria BC
Teri:

Sooner or later, you will not only want to produce an mp3 (or wave) file, you will want to "edit" your midi recording - or even add some orchestration to it.

I use this program extensively, and the price is right:

http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

It will be confusing at first (as all this is but soon becomes clear as bluekeys has noted), but is well worth the effort to get over the learning curve.

There is a superb forum of users for this program (I was there a few minutes ago), where there are some very knowledgeable users that are generous with their help.

You will also need a decent soundcard (Sound Blaster can be obtained very reasonably), and some midi and audio cables with which to interconnect the piano and the computer.

I've been using this program for about six years now, often programming in my own bass and rhythm tracks, or occasionally strings and horns.

There are several methods of getting the piano sound from a midi file:

1. "Play" the midi file in the software noted above in real time and record. PowerTracks will do both - play the midi file, and record the resulting wave file.

2. Render the midi file to wave using "soundfonts", or VSTi's. The mp3 can be converted from the wave file.

3. Render the midi file to wave using sound samples (Ivory etc).

4. Render the midi file to wave using physical modeling with a program like Pianoteq (which is what I do now).

Glenn

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#657879 - 02/02/09 07:10 AM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
dannac Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 595
Loc: USA
In using Audacity ... you need the plug-in to save as MP3.

It has worked well for me.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq

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#657880 - 02/02/09 01:39 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Glenn NK Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 457
Loc: Victoria BC
Audacity is a fine little wave editor program that will record a wave file, however it will not produce any sound on its own and a sound source is required, such as a VST. But this will not reproduce the piano's sound.

If you want your own piano sound, then the midi file must be "played" by or through the piano which will generate the sound which can be recorded by another software such as Audacity or Goldwave.

Glenn

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#657881 - 02/03/09 11:12 AM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Terimr Offline
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Registered: 03/22/08
Posts: 100
Loc: Rochester, MI
Thank you all for your advice.

I have successfully converted my file to Mp3 but now get this message when I try to play it:

[Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file].

I have tried to play through Media Player and Audacity - no luck.

I'll keep trying to remedy this!

Thanks agian,

Teri

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#657882 - 02/03/09 02:02 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
Glenn NK Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 457
Loc: Victoria BC
 Quote:
Originally posted by Terimr:
Thank you all for your advice.

I have successfully converted my file to Mp3 but now get this message when I try to play it:

[Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file].

I have tried to play through Media Player and Audacity - no luck.

I'll keep trying to remedy this!

Thanks agian,

Teri [/b]
This wave editor can be DL'd for a free trial:

http://goldwave.ca/

And if you decide to buy it, the price isn't a killer.

I convert all my waves into mp3's with this program (actually it's my go-to wave editor), and they play well in WMP.

I tried Audacity once, but found that for $45 Goldwave was worth more than Audacity was for free.

Glenn

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#657883 - 02/03/09 02:56 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
mahlzeit Offline
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Registered: 07/24/06
Posts: 1910
Loc: Netherlands
For converting WAV files to MP3, I like to use WinLame:

http://winlame.sourceforge.net/
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#657884 - 02/03/09 03:09 PM Re: Converting MIDI to Mp3 - HELP!
ohitpro Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 104
Loc: Columbus, Ohio, USA
I followed mahlzeit's advice to convert the MIDI file using Synthfont to a WAV file and then converted the WAV file to MP3 using the free version of this software:

Switch File Converter

Good luck!
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