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#659880 - 10/19/04 06:04 PM clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
obrother Offline
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Registered: 01/07/04
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Could really use help here until I get the chance to audition a clp170. I currently have a motif 7 but really need a weighted keyboard for practicing classical, improv, etc. I have played the motif ES 8 recently and found that 1) the action makes me sound pretty darn good - I like it. 2) The main piano patches sound quite a bit better than my Classic Mo.

What I need to know if this: I never liked the action of the P250 - I thought it was a little heavy. I'm all but positive that the Motif ES8 is a slightly lighter action. How does the Clp170's action compare to the ES 8? How would one compare the main piano sounds on each? Thanks in advance

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#659881 - 10/19/04 07:53 PM Re: clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
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CLP170 is the best of CLP line, which has a GH3 keyboard, better than GH keyboard on most other Yamaha digital pianos. P250 should have 3 selections (just like PF500) on its touch (light-heavy) so that you could always select light key action instead if you don't like heavy keys. i know nothing about Motif model, but if it doesn't have weighted keys then it is no comparison to any digital pianos. in general, a digital piano simulates the real piano's key action that's why it has weighted keys. CLP170 perhaps has the most realistic key actions with its GH3 in this sense. so, if you want the best and the most realistic digital piano, CLP170 is certainly it, unless you want something other than piano functions.

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#659882 - 10/20/04 05:01 AM Re: clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
obrother Offline
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The motif 8 is weighted.

When you say to "select like key action" on the p250, I'm assuming you mean the degree of touch sensitivity. As far as I know, there is no way to make the keyboard actually depress in a lighter fashion.

Would still like to hear from anybody who has compared the two keyboards. Thanks.

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#659883 - 10/29/04 11:22 AM Re: clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 10/28/04
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Loc: Caledon ON, Canada
Simply put, there is no comparison between the Motif and GH3 action!

The CLP-170 is distinctly piano while the Motif is simply weighted. The GH3 keybed is slightly heavier than the Motif and has a decidedly more mechanical feel (like a real grand piano). When you get the chance to try the CLP-170, you'll be amazed at the difference.

Don't get me wrong,.. I love the balanced hammer action on the Motif but for pure piano realism, the GH3 keybed wins hands down. That's why I have both! ;-)

Rodney

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#659884 - 10/29/04 12:29 PM Re: clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
Daren Offline
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Registered: 05/11/03
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Don't get me wrong,.. I love the balanced hammer action on the Motif but for pure piano realism, the GH3 keybed wins hands down. That's why I have both! ;-)

Rodney [/QB][/QUOTE]


What about the sound comparison between the Clp170,Motif8 or the Hp107.

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#659885 - 11/01/04 06:51 AM Re: clp 170 vs. motif es 8 piano sound,feel
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 10/28/04
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I can't speak to the HP107 as I use the SRX-02 board in an XV-3080 for Roland piano sounds. As for the Yamaha's, If we are just talking stock sounds then I would say that the clp-170 wins (although this could just be because of the iAFC enhancement) BUT the Motif is also a sampler so you can load a large selection of different pianos. Also, because the Motif is a workstation/synth, you have access to all of the parameters necessary to program almost any voice (including pianos) to your liking.

I personally spend most of my time playing on the Motif, but when I want to seriously practice playing piano, the 170 is where I go.

Rodney

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