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#660809 - 11/19/06 10:43 AM About to buy a Digital Piano.
Relic Offline
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Loc: Netherlands, Purmerend
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I'm planning on buying this one: the YDP 131 at (800 euro) or 113 at (700 euro)

http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_euro...-131/index.html

http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_euro..._113/index.html

Are there any major differeces between them? does anyone know if there's sound quality difference?

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#660810 - 11/19/06 12:03 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
Gyro Offline
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Registered: 04/24/05
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I'm not familiar with these models, but from
looking at the specifications for each, the
131 would seem to have considerably more than the
113: 3 built-in pedals versus one pedal
attached by a wire; 64 poly vs. 32 poly;
much nicer cabinet--and yet the price
difference is only 100 euros (about
$128 US). It would seem that the price
difference should be at least twice as
much. The reason may be that the 131
has a GHS (graded hammer standard) keyboard,
and the 113 has a fully weighted keyboard.
The impression I have is that the GHS
keyboard is not fully weighted, and thus
the action on the 131 would be
lighter than on the 113.

Thus, the main difference between the two
seems to be the weight of the action.
The sound should be better on the 131
but not by a whole lot. And the middle
and left pedals are not really necessary.
So its a tossup: are a nice cabinet, built-in
pedals, and slightly better sound worth
more than an action closer to an acoustic
piano and saving 100 euros?

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#660811 - 11/19/06 12:18 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
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Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 1766
Loc: Connecticut
 Quote:
Originally posted by Gyro:
[QB] The reason may be that the 131
has a GHS (graded hammer standard) keyboard,
and the 113 has a fully weighted keyboard.
The impression I have is that the GHS
keyboard is not fully weighted, and thus
the action on the 131 would be
lighter than on the 113.
The opposite is true.

A GHS keyboard feels more like a grand, with the bass notes heavier than the treble.

The fully weighted keyboard would have a lighter touch and feel less like a real piano.

The 131 would be a much better choice.

Mel
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#660812 - 11/19/06 02:26 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
signa Offline
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GHS action is weighted, just feel little bit lighter (as i compared P60's GH with P70's GHS). i would suggest to go with 131, because it's a newer and better model (64 polyphony) while 113 is an entry level digital (32 polyphony) without even 3 pedals.

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#660813 - 11/19/06 03:30 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
Bob Newbie Offline
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I have a P60 ...sluggish and heavy keys ...but 2yrs ago I didn't know much at the time..if I was making a choice now I'd go for better action (lighter).. Bob Newbie

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#660814 - 11/19/06 03:45 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
Relic Offline
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Registered: 10/24/05
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They have both: Graded Hammer keyboard

So what difference are you guys talking about?

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#660815 - 11/19/06 11:26 PM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
signa Offline
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GHS = graded hammer standard
GH = graded hammer effect

they both are graded hammer action, right, but just with slight different feel. try both when you can to get the idea.

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#660816 - 11/20/06 11:33 AM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
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Went to the shop, sadly them both were not in the shop, so i could'nt TEST but i've been there more times and yes calculated this time they dont have it >_< he said the YDP - 113 Yamaha stopped producing. anyway i tried some CLA 220 yamah as he said it looks similiar and has same options. well it looked ok, but it was GH and ydp 131 ghs ive figured out later but anyway so i ordered the YDP - 131 and probably getting it deliverd home next week \:D i think it will bring alot of joy \:D so i can study alot more now could only study at my moms but now at my father to:D

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#660817 - 11/20/06 11:47 AM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
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Loc: Ohio, USA
congratulations! you finally made a good decision, i think. wish you enjoy your piano soon!

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#660818 - 08/21/07 09:55 AM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
KeithRoscoe Offline
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Registered: 08/20/07
Posts: 1
Loc: Abu Dhabi
the 4 diffrent actions of Yamaha digital Piano...


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#660819 - 08/22/07 12:22 AM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
MarkL Offline
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Registered: 05/26/07
Posts: 725
Loc: Chicago Suburban
 Quote:
Originally posted by KeithRoscoe:
the 4 diffrent actions of Yamaha digital Piano...

Could you point to a higher res image or post the URL where you found this? I presume it came from Yamaha's website somewhere.
thanks

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#660820 - 08/22/07 01:28 AM Re: About to buy a Digital Piano.
Eternal Offline
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Registered: 08/21/06
Posts: 1285
Loc: Posts: 80,372
 Quote:
Originally posted by KeithRoscoe:
the 4 diffrent actions of Yamaha digital Piano...

[/b]
Can you make that image a little smaller? We can still see some of the text... ;\)

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