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#661048 - 06/02/01 01:28 PM Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
netizen Offline
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Registered: 06/02/01
Posts: 1926
Loc: New York
Greetings all,

I just signed up, and have spent a good chunk of the morning pouring over the various discussion threads. So glad I found this site !!

I am thinking of getting a digital piano. I am leaning towards this because: 1) I live in an apartment, like to practice odd hours, and so headphones is a great thing; 2) I want to be able to utilize midi; 3) Do composing at both keyboards (PC) and (Piano). I had been thinking about something very portable for gigging (easily carried in and out of places). But I was at a music shop checking out Korg's SP100 and found myself spending most of the time seated at the Baldwin digital pianos. Anyone have any experience with these? Recommendations? Ultimately, I want something that approximates as best as possible the sound and touch of a piano and integrates with Midi. Thanks in advance !!

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[ June 03, 2001: Message edited by: netizen ]
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#661049 - 06/02/01 02:56 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
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Registered: 05/24/01
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Greetings Netizen,

I haven't played the Baldwin's, but I did try a number of digitals before I decided on the Yamaha P-80. I wanted it for many of the same reasons you indicated.

Because I'm a fair piano player and a piano tuner, I wanted "real" piano sound and a good touch. The P-80 has some excellent piano voices, 88 notes, touch sensitive weighted keys, and is MIDI compatible (with built in sequencing). I'm sure there are others out there that are as good or better, but for under $1000.00 (you can usually find them around $995) I think it is on of the better deals.
It has 6 piano voices, plus a variation on each, and a few other voices (harpsichord, strings, etc. They aren't that great).

If you get a chance, check one out.

Frank B.
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#661050 - 06/02/01 03:01 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 219
Hi,

I haven't played any of the Baldwin digital pianos, but I did try a lot of others before finally buying a Yamaha GranTouch. Of all the ones I tried this was by far the best (although not perfect!). I'm not radically pro Yamaha, but their digital pianos are very good. Unfortunately the GranTouch is not really portable, but you could try a clavinova or a p80 (a very well loved keyboard by a lot of people).

If it helps at all you can hear a recording I made on my Yamaha. Just click this Liszt Romance

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#661051 - 06/03/01 07:33 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
netizen Offline
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Registered: 06/02/01
Posts: 1926
Loc: New York
Hi Frank and Diarmuid,

I definitely will check out the Yamaha's. A friend had suggested a Yamaha YDP-101. But the P80 sounds like it might match-up pretty nicely with my requirements. Hopefully, I'll have time this week --before leaving for vacation --to try one of these.

I much appreciate Diarmuid's sending me the link. Great sounding and nicely performed!!

Just read in one of the other threads about Baldwin filing for bankruptcy. That's too bad, not just because I was impressed the Pianovelle RP90, but because I've long admired the Baldwin grands. Given this turn of events, I am hesistant to give further consideration to the Baldwin digitals --who knows what it may mean in terms of customer service and such.

Thanks for the help --and I'm always open to further ideas. I'll let you know how the search goes.
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#661052 - 06/06/01 10:17 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
Jerry Van Ee Offline
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 17
Loc: Vancouver, B.C. (Canada)
Three years ago I bought an Alesis QS8 synth for our church. Considering it is actually a synthesizer, it still makes a great digital piano. However, I heard a rumour last week that Alesis has gone belly-up. (They did it the same week as Baldwin, so they are in good company, so to speak.) I would see if you can pick up an Alesis QS8 or DG8 somewhere. (Maybe there is a bankrupcy sale out there.) If you do not want to buy from a company that is likely going to be gone soon, I suggest you check ou the Technics stage pianos. I tried one in a store a few weeks ago and I was blown away by the action and the sound. It also weighs in at 35 pounds so it is very portable. I am going to recommend one to our church for the Fireside Room. We will continue to use the Alesis in the sanctuary, alongside a new concert grand we hope to buy in the next few weeks. (Make and model of concert grand is not yet decided. I'll make a seperate post when we finally buy, since I have had a lot help from this forum.)

So, try the Technics and don't ignore Alesis. Two unlikely companies that make great sounding digital pianos.

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#661053 - 06/06/01 10:20 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
Jerry Van Ee Offline
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 17
Loc: Vancouver, B.C. (Canada)
netizen:

I just realized after hitting the post button, that you may not have been aware of Baldwin's financial troubles. Don't let this scare you away from their digital pianos. They don't really make them anyway. They are made for them by General Music (GEM) in Italy. Also, I have heard great things about them, though I cannot say I have actually played one.

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#661054 - 06/07/01 06:31 AM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
magnezium Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 722
Loc: Singapore
you might want to try the yamaha disklaviers... they're like regular upright pianos but you can connect them to your computer etc... works with headphones too... and when you're not on electricity you can enjoy a nice piano sound... though i can't stand the yamaha sound... it isn't portable though...=]

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#661055 - 06/07/01 11:10 AM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
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Registered: 05/29/01
Posts: 512
Loc: Sterling Heights, Michigan
I haven't tried many of the digi pianos, but the Alesis QS8 is a lot of bang for the buck. I'm thinking of one for my church next year. The "Stereo" piano samples are outstanding and there is a ROM card reader for adding sounds from the Alesis library.

BTW, I find it difficult to believe that Alesis is in financial trouble--we should check into that. They were & still are pioneers in digital multitrack recoders (ADAT) I own 4 of them. Also, they have recently announced their new 24 track direct to disk recorder-----I suspect the rumor is wrong---I keep a pretty close eye on the digital recording market.

Mat D.

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#661056 - 06/07/01 11:13 AM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
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Registered: 05/29/01
Posts: 512
Loc: Sterling Heights, Michigan
Pardon me, the QS8 is the wrong model # for the one I was thinking of. The model I'm thinking of has the same sample based 'engine', but comes in a case w/ speakers & music rack etc. Sorry I can't recall the model #.

The QS8 is quite portable though.

Mat D.

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#661057 - 06/08/01 01:45 AM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
Jerry Van Ee Offline
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 17
Loc: Vancouver, B.C. (Canada)
Mat:

I think the model you are thinking about is the DG8. It is the same as the QS8, but has a built-in amp and speakers. I would be very happy if the rumour about Alesis was wrong. I still want to buy the Sanctuary Q-Card. I heard the rumour from a Yamaha dealer that was never happy with the fact that we bought the Alesis. I just thought it had the best sounding piano sound from a digital instrument. Yamahas and Rolands never did it for me at any price. The only digital I have ever played that I think sounds better than our QS8 is the Technics stage piano.

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#661058 - 07/05/01 10:41 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
toddthepianoguy Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/05/01
Posts: 13
Hi,

I recently tried out a Kurzweil K2600. Very impressive! One of the best piano sounds I've heard out of a synth. It's also very portable and Kurzweil makes one of the best feeling keyboards as well in my opinion. When I tried it I was actually looking for a Kurzweil PC88, it's been kind of an industry standard for a while as I understand, but I couldn't find one. Maybe they've been replaced by the 2500 and 2600 series.

Have fun,
Todd

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#661059 - 07/07/01 05:32 PM Re: Baldwin Pianovelle RP90
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Registered: 07/07/01
Posts: 3192
Loc: Topeka, Kansas
I have a Technnics sX-Px226 which I purchased for some of the same reasons. Headphones save wear and tear on others in the house and make me a bit less self-conscience. Line-out makes recording and editing on computer wav programe very easy and MIDI in/out hooks well with transcription programs such as Coda's Allegro or Cakewalk. I had looked at Korgs and Kerzweills but stumbled on the Technics at a good discount and it has worked well for me. It is SEMI-Portable, in that 2 people can carry it up stairs and put it in back seat of decent sized car, but I wouldn't want to move it very often. I've been happy with feel and responce, but haven't had a lot of experience with other electronic keyboards except Kurzweills. The price 2 years ago was about $1700. I DID play some of the Baldwins and liked them, but I thought they were a bit bulkier (physical size) and I ended up with the Technices for a lower price. One note, the HEADPHONE sound is very good (depending on headphone, of course) but the SPEAKER sound on the Techniques is a little weak, or tinny sounding, not as rich as it could be.

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