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#662425 - 06/11/05 06:12 PM Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
Dan Offline

Registered: 05/25/01
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Loc: Colorado
Right now, after a bit of playing and price shopping, I can get the Roland KR-5, or either the Yamaha CLP-150 or FP1000 all for about the same price. (Around $3200).

While I haven't played the FP1000, the specs seem to indicate it has the same GH keyboard as the CLP-150 (which I did play). I also played the Roland KR-5.

The Roland and the FP1000 both have the score display and nicer display.

Nothing I've played comes close to my grand's action. But they're not bad feeling keyboards, just different.

Any thoughts between those 3 models?



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#662426 - 06/11/05 06:32 PM Re: Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
cem Offline
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 26
Loc: NH, USA
One major difference between the PF-1000 and CLP-150 is in the Piano samples. The CLP-150 has Sympathetic String Resonance, and the PF-1000 does not.


#662427 - 06/11/05 06:48 PM Re: Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
Dan Offline

Registered: 05/25/01
Posts: 1031
Loc: Colorado
Thanks for pointing that out Chris. I thought there had to be some difference besides the display, but I hadn't put my finger on what it was.

A quick check of the KR-5 specs shows that it does have the sympathetic resonance samples.

#662428 - 06/11/05 07:01 PM Re: Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
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Also, each model has a different amount of polyphony.

CLP-150: 128 Note Polyphony
PF-1000: 96 Note Polyphony
KR-5: 64 Note Polyphony


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#662429 - 06/11/05 07:43 PM Re: Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
Dan Offline

Registered: 05/25/01
Posts: 1031
Loc: Colorado
Thanks again. I had noticed that difference, but honestly could not discern a difference while playing KR-5 vs the CLP-150.

#662430 - 06/12/05 12:02 PM Re: Roland KR-5 vs Yamaha CLP-150 vs Yamaha PF1000
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Registered: 03/02/05
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Loc: San Francisco

If playing piano is what's most important, make keyboard feel your number one criterion. In general the Roland actions are lighter than Yammies'. (I'm a Yammy guy). If your lady will be practicing with you, make sure you get two headphone jacks;-)

In practice, polyphony count becomes important when you're using the accompaniments feature and/or making lightning fast runs with the sustain pedal continuously down.

I've yet to hear a digital piano whose sustain pedal didn't make me think of Quasimodo(Sp?) in his bell tower. And I own or have owned a Yammy P-80 and P-200 and a Bachmann GRPT140. The Bachmann's sustain pedal is *continuous," rather than on/off. That should translate into partial sustain. If it does, I can't hear it, either when playing the included sounds or the piano samples stored as an app on the computer.

IMO, the sostenuto is much more useful in the digital realm. Puts a tonal floor under subsequent notes, while still permitting players to hear individual notes instead of a tonal blur. Based on limited personal experience and comments I've read by other posters, I suspect that most salespeople don't have a clue about how sustain and sostenuto may differ from damper and sostenuto. And since you'll usually be releasing the pedal between measures, note stealing---which happens when you run out of polyphony---won't be an issue. Hope you'll try the middle pedal, and let us know what you think.



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