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#663433 - 08/27/04 11:18 AM Digital piano
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Anybody played the Roland?
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#663434 - 08/27/04 11:44 AM Re: Digital piano
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<<< have to press an extra 28 pounds per minute on the Yamaha P120 compared to the Mason and Hamlin acoustic. Over an hour that's an extra 1,680 pounds I have to press on the P120.>>>

Quit your whining.
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#663435 - 08/27/04 01:41 PM Re: Digital piano
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My style of playing is typically in the style of Joey DeFranceso, a fast bebop right hand with a walking bass left hand, but with the Rhodes piano sound. When I play fast for long periods of time my tendonitis acts up.

I play an average tempo of 190 beats per minute.
I play an average of 570 notes per minute.
(190 notes in the left hand walking bass and 360 notes with the right hand during long solos)
Maybe you need to explore something more along the lines of a Basie influence?

As for the 190bpm tempos...Have some compassion for your audience!!!
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#663436 - 08/27/04 01:43 PM Re: Digital piano
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Rintincop,

I'm sorry, but you've GOTTA be kidding...right?
If you are, that was a well-thought out and creative excuse to dump the P120 (he-he).
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#663437 - 08/27/04 07:42 PM Re: Digital piano
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How does it sound?
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#663438 - 08/27/04 07:47 PM Re: Digital piano
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I cannot play them fast for prolonged periods of time without my tendons becoming inflamed and scar tissue on the tendons never completely heals.
Why do you need to play so fast? Seems like an obvious answer to your situation to me...
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#663439 - 08/27/04 09:54 PM Re: Digital piano
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Does it have a good horn sound?
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#663440 - 08/28/04 12:10 AM Re: Digital piano
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Originally posted by rintincop:
I want to mention that I do love the Yamaha actions and have been playing them for two years now. I am not complaining about them and I am being sincere. I think they are the most expressive and dynamic digital actions I have ever played. My problem is that in my case they take a toll on my tendons. I cannot play them fast for prolonged periods of time without my tendons becoming inflamed and scar tissue on the tendons never completely heals. For me, the Yamaha action is like playing with a great tennis racket that is on the heavy side, that gives me great control in hitting and placing the ball, but at the same time it's wearing out my ligaments because it's heavier than I can handle at fast speeds. I have been playing 38 years now, since I was very young and I think it was Roald who mentioned to me 18 months ago something like "I can't understand why you would chose to continue to play an action that was injuring your wrist." It was because the Yamaha is such a great action, but he was giving me good advice; I realize that my ligaments can no longer tolerate such a heavily weighted action for fast playing over the long term. [/b]
Is it possible that your approach to the keyboard is the problem and not the keyboard itself.

If your top forearm muscle gets tense and you have to shake out your arm after 10 or 15 or 20 minutes, you are using the wrong set of muscles. I know this from first hand experience as I played incorrectly from when I first started (12 or so) to 28. At 28 I took lessons from a concert pianist and learned in my first lesson how to correctly approach the keyboard. It took me about three months before that approach was second nature.

I sincerely do not see how _correctly_ playing the piano (any piano) would result in problems. My opinion.
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#663441 - 08/28/04 07:37 AM Re: Digital piano
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Rintincop,

Let me just ask you a question, ok? If the Yamaha actions are too heavy for you, and they don't feel great to you, then why the hell are you using the p250? I mean, one reason why you got rid of the p120 was the action, yet, the p250 has the EXACT same action, and you don't mind it. I don't get it rintincop.

BTW, you whine about your problems too much. Just keep it to yourself. I can't believe you measure the pressure you have to push the key down with.

O boy, and look what rintincop did to this topic. He changed all of his posts to other questions, so he can try and cover up. He now has questions like "does it have a good horn sound?" Rintincop, the damage is done.

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