Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#663544 - 06/28/04 09:12 AM Roland HP2/Yamaha PF500-my experience
helenh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/28/04
Posts: 47
Loc: Rangoon, Burma
Owing to potential for OS posting and end of financial year sales I traded my much loved old Yamaha upright in for a digital. Initially I bought the Roland HP-2. What I liked about this piano was its light action-very easy to play with a nice "feel", and its lovely Steinway sampled grand piano tone-very pure and limpid. In Australia we get the model with the graded progressive action, I think its different in some countries. It's a neat looking piano with a sliding keyboard cover. However after playing for several hours on it I felt, as an intermediate level classical pianist who has been playing since childhood and kept it up, that I could grow out of this piano quite quickly. The volume maxed out early on and at max volume there was some slight distortion, also the piano sounded flat through headphones. Co-incidentally that weekend the piano shop (Better Music Classic Keyboards, in Canberra, Australia) had a run-out sale including their last demo model PF500, at $1800 off rrp. I had played this model in the shop but the original price was way out of my league..
Better Music (who, BTW, come highly recommended, patient no-pressure sales, very pleasant to deal with) agreed to changeover. What I liked in this piano was its excellent speakers, and richness of sound, as well as the sheer tank-like quality of the build and the contemporary piano styling. Action was considerably heavier than the Roland, and I probably did like the lighter action better being small with small hands and weak wrists. However you can't have everything and the Yamaha is so loaded with features that the extra $900 Aus was well justified. In addition to the grand piano voices, so far I have tried the honky tonk piano for ragtime, the truly wonderful organ for Bach, the harpsichord ditto and lots more to play with.
So IMO the HP2 is a very nice piano with a good action and a really lovely piano tone. Ideally suited for beginers and early intermediates, but if you want lots of volume then you may be disappointed. I played the HP3 also and personally did not find it sounded very much better than the HP2 and the cost difference was more than I paid for the Yamaha. If I had to choose between HP2 ad HP3, at least in Australia where we get the graded action keyboard on the HP2, I would choose the HP2 as better value. HP1 sounded very thin and its touch was different, though it too is good value.
The Yamaha looks like lots of fun as soon as my hands strengthen up!

Top
(ads) Sweetwater / Roland
Yamaha Keyboards for Performance and Composition

Click Here


#663545 - 07/09/04 08:46 PM Re: Roland HP2/Yamaha PF500-my experience
Kitagrl Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/29/04
Posts: 95
So you like the PF500 alot then? I am really looking at buying that one but am not sure if I should go the extra $600 USD over the YDP223. The heavier action sounds nice as I want my fingers to get a workout and want it to feel like a piano. Any other positive or negatives on this model would be appreciated!

Top
#663546 - 07/09/04 09:24 PM Re: Roland HP2/Yamaha PF500-my experience
signa Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 8483
Loc: Ohio, USA
PF500 should be better (in its functionality) than YDP223 (=CLP120?), which has 128 polyphony and graded hammer action. CLP120 has probably only 64 polyphony, unless you choose CLP150 and above model. i tried CLP150/170 models and their key action is pretty good as nearly as an accoustic piano's, and they have bigger powered speaker system (50w?) than PF500's (30w speakers). CLP150/170 may cost more than PF500 ($2000-$2200) because of their cabinet look.

Top
#663547 - 07/10/04 12:13 AM Re: Roland HP2/Yamaha PF500-my experience
Dave Horne Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 5277
Loc: Vught, The Netherlands
I'm new to this forum, but if you find a piano that you like but the internal amp is a tad underpowered, you could always invest in a pair of small powered speakers.

Also, yo check out prices to see how your store compares to otheres, you can go to Froogle - a subset of Google.

http://froogle.google.com/
_________________________
website

mp3\wav files

AvantGrand N3, CP5

Top
#663548 - 07/12/04 06:06 AM Re: Roland HP2/Yamaha PF500-my experience
helenh Offline
Full Member

Registered: 06/28/04
Posts: 47
Loc: Rangoon, Burma
After a couple of weeks playing the PF500 I am a convert. My hands are strengthening up nicely and the action feels natural. I am growing to love the grand piano 1 tone and the harpsichord voice(s) as well as the tutti organ voice-great to rip out the Toccata and Fugue in D minor, or will be when I can play it properly. I understand the PF500 is a CLP 150 in a stage piano like format, though it is more attractive and larger than a pure stage piano and for those who do gigs probably more cumbersome, not that I know anything about that. I did not really want the cabinet style despite having had an acoustic piano before. Difficult to comment on price differences between the two formats because I got such a good deal on mine, being a runout at the end of the financial year.
The XG voices are fun , though varying in quality, and I have hours of exploring ahead of me. The sound system seems to push out quite enough sound for my small living room.
The voice settings are enormously versatile can alter pitch, reverb setting, sustain strength, tuning etc. If you are prevaricating, go for the model you can grow into. I have played for hours. Good luck!

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
8 Live Ragtime Piano Players on the Cape!
-------------------
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Recording the results of Pianoteq
by Roger Ransom
10/24/14 01:35 PM
Coolest Back Action I have Seen
by Steve Jackson
10/24/14 11:55 AM
Steinway piano with two offset keyboards
by guyl
10/24/14 10:36 AM
Black and white dampers
by iLaw
10/24/14 09:55 AM
AUGUST FORSTER
by Karl Watson
10/24/14 09:05 AM
Who's Online
151 registered (36251, A Guy, ajames, Alexander Borro, 37 invisible), 1656 Guests and 21 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
76641 Members
42 Forums
158471 Topics
2327258 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission