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#663688 - 10/20/04 02:39 AM Clavinova versus GIGA piano
vgeorge Offline
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Registered: 10/06/04
Posts: 109
Loc: Ohio
I am in a spot should I go in for a Clavinova170 or a giga piano160 using my Yamaha P80 as the controller.The hardware and monitor speakers are already in place but I am not too sure of the sound or the touch.Any one with experience with either or both of these systems :3hearts:

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#663689 - 10/20/04 10:02 AM Re: Clavinova versus GIGA piano
JimM Offline
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Registered: 11/04/02
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Loc: Northern California
I have a fair amount of experience with GigaStudio. What is it you'd like to know? The piano sounds are likely to be substantially better with GigaStudio (although you have to buy the libraries.) The touch of the 170 is different than the P80 but whether it's better is subjective. The P80 should work fine as a Giga controller if you're OK with the touch.

When you say "the hardware is in place," what hardware are you talking about? The computing requirements for soft samplers like Giga are pretty substantial, even more so for the new versions like Giga3. If you don't have a suitable computer you're probably talking a couple of thousand dollars by the time you buy the hardware, sound cards, midi interface, software and libraries.
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#663690 - 10/21/04 02:37 AM Re: Clavinova versus GIGA piano
vgeorge Offline
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Registered: 10/06/04
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Loc: Ohio
Well I have a P4 3.0Ghz with about 1gb RAM which I guess is good enough to run the Giga 160 which comes with an in built library the Giga piano.What I am keen on is the sound reproduction which in a CLP170 has an electronic feel to it.Can you recommend some good speakers to do justice to this sound library.Overall I still feel that 'assembling' a digital piano is tailormade to your requirements and perhaps cheaper too.
Any experience with the east west Bosendorfer library which doesn't require a sampler

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#663691 - 10/21/04 04:24 PM Re: Clavinova versus GIGA piano
JimM Offline
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Registered: 11/04/02
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Loc: Northern California
That should be enough computer, although you'll also need two fast hard disks, a high-quality sound card and a midi interface.

Speakers are the weak link in all digital pianos IMHO. I supplement the ones in my CVP900 with two small Bose bookshelf speakers under the piano driven by a separate receiver/amplifier. Makes a big difference. I don't think you need large speakers to get a good piano sound, since the frequency response doesn't go that low. I tried a sub-woofer but it didn't add anything.

I don't have experience with the east-west Bosendorfer stand-alone module. I do have the east-west Bos library for Giga. It's nice, but has been greatly outstripped by the newer samples, including those from Post Audio and Sampletekk. The new Sampletekk Black Grand is the best classical piano sample I have ever used, and I've used or heard most of them. I don't know whether these are offered as a standalone module but you could check both web sites.
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#663692 - 10/29/04 12:43 PM Re: Clavinova versus GIGA piano
Rodney Offline
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Registered: 10/28/04
Posts: 735
Loc: Caledon ON, Canada
Jim,

Just wanted to add that not any old soundblaster will do. The audio interface must include GSIF drivers and now there is a new specification GSIF2 for GIGA ver3. Unfortunately some manuafacturers are slow to adopt GSIF2 and m-audio (the nice/inexpensive Audiophile 2496) has even declined to create a new driver at all.

Come to think of it, I don't think Tascam has released GSIF2 drivers for some of their gear yet??

BTW:

I agree that the Black Grand is truely OUTSTANDING!!!

Rodney

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#663693 - 10/30/04 09:01 AM Re: Clavinova versus GIGA piano
JimM Offline
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Registered: 11/04/02
Posts: 200
Loc: Northern California
I haven't upgraded to Giga3 yet so am still using my old Audiophile 2496 card. Wasn't aware they weren't going to supply drivers - bummer! I'll ask about experience with GSIF2 cards on Northernsounds if I decide to go. The resonance modeling on Giga3 produces some pretty nice pianos, but I'm so in love with my new Mason Hamlin BB that I've gotten less interested in sampled pianos!
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Mason and Hamlin BB, Clavinova CVP900

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