Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
128 registered (ando, alerique, anamnesis, ambrozy, augustm, 29 invisible), 1728 Guests and 4 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#669116 - 09/19/07 04:36 AM Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
i3ear Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
I got myself a synth. Being as I am very intersted in tone and electronics. I play bass as well, and I am quite audiophile about my tone. (my bass distortion I try and emulate fat synth tones with)

But I have no idea what aftertouch, LSB, MSD, or all these words mean!

I have a Miditech, MIDISTUDIO 1 keyboard. And I am using synthedit as my software synth. I have made a few synths on that, but there are alot of things I do not understand.

Also, I want to learn how to play this thing like a piano. What is the "best tone" to use? (to get an ear for pitch, etc)

Top
(ad) ROLAND

Click Here

#669117 - 09/19/07 04:56 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
signa Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 8483
Loc: Ohio, USA
'aftertouch' is usually referred to the feel after you pressed a key on an acoustic piano (which might not even be implemented on any DP yet).

Top
#669118 - 09/19/07 05:50 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
mahlzeit Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/24/06
Posts: 1916
Loc: Netherlands
Aftertouch is what happens after you've pressed down the key. You don't have to release it all the way but you can move it up and down a bit. It can be used to control certain MIDI parameters such as vibrato. It has nothing to do with the aftertouch on acoustic pianos.

LSB and MSB stand for "Least Significant Byte" and "Most Significant Byte". It's a way to divide data that requires 16 bits of precision into two separate bytes (which are 8 bits). One MIDI byte can hold the values 0 to 127, but certain MIDI messages require more precision than that so the messages are split up into a "course" (MSB) and "fine" (LSB) message. This is all very technical and you probably shouldn't care less. ;\)
_________________________
No idea what chords you are playing? Reverse Chord Finder Pro will tell you!

Top
#669119 - 09/19/07 07:27 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
i3ear Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
Hah, is there a site I can go to that explains the basics?

Top
(ad 800)
Yamaha CP Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP Stage Pianos Simply the Best
#669120 - 09/19/07 10:02 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
Stephen Hazel Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 757
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
Sounds like YOU are a fellow synth head!
This could be interesting to ya: http://shazware.com/piano

You're going to want a better keyboard than that.
Matthijs explained aftertouch pretty good.
You've got the noteon velocity (how fast you pressed the key down), then aftertouch is how much you "lean" on the keybed while the note is held down (0=lightly..127=heavily) then you've got the noteoff velocity (sometimes - it usually defaults to 64 - half of 127, sometimes it's 0)

Outside of the keys there are controllers that tweak the sound like pitchbender, modulation wheel, program change, pedal, slider and knobs and buttons, oh my!

Try em out - figure out how to edit patches for your softsynth (or audigy like me) and put those sliders and knobs to work like those analog synth guys do.

Anyways, welcome to the site.
This place rocks hard!

...Steve
_________________________
http://PianoCheetah.com - my weird piano practice program

Top
#669121 - 09/20/07 01:51 AM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
i3ear Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
Sadly, my keyboard has no aftertouch (THE MANUAL LIED TO ME!) I learned after toying with my virtual synth for a while.

This keyboard has a modulation, pitch bender, and a bunch of assignable controls! \:D (8 of them to be specific). Though my pitch wheel resets SLIGHTLY above where it is supposed to be. It isn't that noticeable, but can be kinda annoying...

Also, http://www.synthedit.com/ Check it out! \:D

Top
#669122 - 09/20/07 03:29 AM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
Triryche Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/06
Posts: 1456
Loc: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Are you sure it doesn't have aftertouch?

Aftertouch would need to be assigned to a control for it to work.

Top
#669123 - 09/20/07 04:35 AM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
i3ear Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
There is an aftertouch out for the midi module in that program. Hooked stuff up to it, doesn't do a damn thing. \:\(

Top
#669124 - 09/20/07 03:01 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
Stephen Hazel Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 757
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
On your controller, you can probably assign pedal to generate aftertouch events. That's probably the next best way to do aftertouch.

Keyboard pressure is another term meaning aftertouch. (poly aftertouch=key pressure / mono aftertouch=channel pressure.)
poly aftertouch is VERY rare but someday I'll get a controller with it or die trying \:\)
_________________________
http://PianoCheetah.com - my weird piano practice program

Top
#669125 - 09/20/07 08:59 PM Re: Tone to learn on? Also, basics of synth.
i3ear Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 09/18/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
No pedal. Gotta buy one. :<

Though, I can probably make one! Is it just like any other controller? Tip = send, ring = return, and sleeve = ground?

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!

--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
(ad)
Hammond A100 for Sale!
PRICE DROPPED!
(Think B3)
Hammond A100 for sale!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad 125)
Sweetwater $55,000 Giveaway
Sweetwater $55,000 Mic Locker Giveaway
(ads)
PD - WNG - MH
Mason & Hamlin Piano Factory Tours
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Yamaha YDP-141 vs Casio PX-135
by frenery
05/04/16 09:15 AM
Jazz Piano Comping - How to Comp
by BB666
05/04/16 08:55 AM
Piano Adventures Adult All-in-one: New edition with video!
by TrevorM
05/04/16 07:08 AM
Roland HP605 or Casio GP300
by marko697
05/04/16 06:19 AM
On down and up weight
by Beemer
05/04/16 04:42 AM
Forum Stats
83,503 Registered Members
44 Forums
172,389 Topics
2,521,069 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission