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#669448 - 01/01/08 01:07 PM Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
Debbie111 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 13
Loc: UK
Hi everyone

Could someone tell me which of these digital pianos would give best value for money. The Casio AP80R seems to have more functions than the Yamaha but I am more interested in which would feel most like an acoustic piano.

Thanks
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#669449 - 01/01/08 02:07 PM Re: Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
DragonPianoPlayer Offline
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Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 2462
Loc: Denver, CO
Debbie,

It is more personal preference based on touch. You cannot change the touch of the digital piano, but you can change the sound using a computer and software piano samples (or modelling software).

Acoustic pianos have just as much range in their actions as digitals. Digitals do not really feel quite like acoustics, but as long as they are weighted you should be able to move between the two.

The Casio models have a slightly heavier, IMO, action from the lower priced Yamahas. I prefer Casio to the lower end Yamahas, but that is my preference.

The Casio AP80 is an older model, I would say about 3 - 4 years old, and has two sound layers and 32/16 note polyphony. (It drops to 16 when playing a piano sound in stereo - like grand piano 1.) The newest model in this line is the AP500 which has 128/64 note polyphony and three sound layers.

The Yamaha YDP131 has (I believe) only one sound layer, but 64 polyphony.

Polyphony is important when you are trying to play many chords while holding the pedals down. It is also important when you are layering voices, like piano and strings.

Sound layers are important because part of the distinction between pp and ff is in the harmonics that you hear. If you only have one layer, the DP is relying on volume alone to make the instrument sound like pp to ff. If you have multiple layers, it can change the tone to give you more of a feel for what you hear in an acoustic piano.

Rich
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#669450 - 01/02/08 05:23 AM Re: Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
gluttny Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
Posts: 185
Loc: Austria
Debbie, i recommend you go and try both models.
by coincidence i tried both ap80 and ydp131 before deciding on ap500. what can i say? i did not like either. ap80 is an older model, tons of options plus nice lcd display but it sounded too electronic for me and 32 polyphony is limiting. ydp131 i did not like this, it has 64 polyphony and sounded more realistic but still i did not like its sound and keys. both these models have so-so keyboard, both models have clunky keyboard, ydp131 might be a tad better than ap80.

if i would be you i would look at casio ap500, or px200, the last comes without 3 pedals so you must buy an optional stand for this. ap500 is more expensive but has everything you want. you can also look at cheaper ap45 or ap33, not bad at all. or you may want look at px720 which is similar to px200 - a compact line from casio.

for yamaha i cannot say which model. but i recommend you take a look at kawai, very nice piano, nice mechanic, good sound. check CL-25, CL-30 or CN-21 in their cheaper line pianos.

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#669451 - 01/02/08 12:39 PM Re: Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
Debbie111 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 13
Loc: UK
Many thanks for your advice. I have now purchased a Casio AP45 and can't wait for it to arrive.
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#669452 - 01/03/08 06:16 AM Re: Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
jrcallan Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 397
Loc: Pennsylvania
Debbie:

I bought an AP45 a few weeks ago, and love it, although I'm just a beginner. I am really impressed with how easy it is to get immersed in the lessons without being bothered by unnecessary bells and whistles...yet it is really very feature-rich for the price range.

Please add your thoughts when you get your AP45 set up.
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#669453 - 01/03/08 09:42 AM Re: Casio AP80R versus Yamaha YDP131
gluttny Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
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Debbie, good luck, you will enjoy Ap45. try it and let us know your experience.

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