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#671702 - 02/11/04 08:11 PM Lost my acoustic, probably need digital
RK Offline
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Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 10
My first post! :-)

My wife and I are separating and she took the piano, so I'm currently without.

Myself: Took piano lessons starting in elementary school, through high school from a private teacher. My parents couldn't afford a real piano so I had to practice on an old parlor (reed) organ that had been my grandmother's or on my non velocity sensative non weighted 10 key (ok, a few more than that) keyboard. Neither was ideal, as neither were sensative to velocity and neither had standard sized keys. As an adult my (used to be) wife and I bought a used "Star" upright that was probably 70 years old and my enjoyment level went WAY UP. When the piano went away recently I was playing every single day for at least an hour per day. Even so, my ability level isn't all that great and I learn songs very slowly since my years of lessons were severely hampered by my practice equipment.

Anyhow, the house is also for sale and I expect to live in apartments for a while and will probably be moving a few times until things settle down a bit, thus the thought of a digital piano comes up.

Looking online and at the local music stores I see a few that interest me. At CostCo I played a Casio digital piano that didn't feel too bad, but couldn't get a good feel for it in that environment... I also played some more expensive digital pianos at the music store and didn't notice a HUGE difference in feel. I don't really care too much about lots of features, I mostly just want a piano to play that feels and sounds decent. In a few years when things settle down a bit I'll then consider the investment in a real acoustic piano.

Anyhow, I've been searching the forums and found very little written about the Casio (for exmaple, the AP38), nor have I found much about the Kaysound that I see online which also claims to be hammer action, though has a low polyphony count and is probably not worth anything.

Thanks!!!
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#671703 - 02/11/04 10:41 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital
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Registered: 04/13/03
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I'm not familiar with the Casio or Kaysound. However, I will say this, I'm not sure what your budget is but, if you can find anything comparable or better than a Yamaha P80 (sort of a bottom of the line, for nice digitals) in your budget, go for it (However, test several before your final decision).

Disclaimer: I don't know what your budget is so I may be way off[/b] in my advice, but it should suffice as a starting point.

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#671704 - 02/13/04 07:16 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital
RK Offline
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Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 10
Interestingly I've had two people (one PM) suggest this model... thanks to both of you, I'll look for this model and give it a try.

Thanks!
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#2141509 - 08/30/13 06:53 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
RK Offline
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Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 10
Hey guys! Almost 10 years after the original post I finally got around to buying that piano! :-)

I recently put in an order for a Casio PX-850. It should arrive on Wednesday! I'm really looking forward to its arrival!

In the intervening years I decided that a guitar better fit my need for portability, so I've taught myself to play classical guitar, more or less. Not to a level where I'd want to show off, but well enough that I have a lot of fun with it. That said, still missing the piano, and still find myself playing a few notes on my old piano every time I go to pick up the kids. Things have been stable for a number of years now so I finally jumped back in the game!

I'm itching with excitement to play again, though find myself struggling to remember how to read bass clef! It'll probably come back to me quickly, and I've been playing with an iPad app that gives you a little keyboard and flashes up some notes and times you to see how quickly you can identify them. My reading speed is improving and will hopefully be fast enough by next week that I can pick up some fairly easy songs and start playing again!

Saw this book at B&N a few months ago:

http://www.amazon.com/Pieces-Beginner-Everybodys-Favorite-Series/dp/0825618215

It looked like a good starting point to get back into things, so I put it on my wish list. Last month I found a copy in great condition for half price at a used book store, so I grabbed it since most of my books have also gone missing in the last decade!

So... I'm back and look forward to being a participant on the forums! <particularly the adult beginner forum for now!>
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#2141511 - 08/30/13 06:57 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
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Welcome back! Hope you have years of fun with your PX-850.
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#2141523 - 08/30/13 07:36 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
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RK, Great stuff here. Just another reason why I love this forum!
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#2141666 - 08/31/13 04:39 AM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
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Registered: 07/28/12
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Loc: Canada Alberta
RK, I have read your post, here:

subject: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital

My wife and I are separating and she took the piano, so I'm currently without.

Myself: Took piano lessons starting in elementary school, through high school from a private teacher. My parents couldn't afford a real piano so I had to practice on an old parlor (reed) organ that had been my grandmother's or on my non velocity sensative non weighted 10 key (ok, a few more than that) keyboard. Neither was ideal, as neither were sensative to velocity and neither had standard sized keys. As an adult my (used to be) wife and I bought a used "Star" upright that was probably 70 years old and my enjoyment level went WAY UP. When the piano went away recently I was playing every single day for at least an hour per day. Even so, my ability level isn't all that great and I learn songs very slowly since my years of lessons were severely hampered by my practice equipment.

Anyhow, the house is also for sale and I expect to live in apartments for a while and will probably be moving a few times until things settle down a bit, thus the thought of a digital piano comes up.

Looking online and at the local music stores I see a few that interest me. At CostCo I played a Casio digital piano that didn't feel too bad, but couldn't get a good feel for it in that environment... I also played some more expensive digital pianos at the music store and didn't notice a HUGE difference in feel. I don't really care too much about lots of features, I mostly just want a piano to play that feels and sounds decent. In a few years when things settle down a bit I'll then consider the investment in a real acoustic piano.

Anyhow, I've been searching the forums and found very little written about the Casio (for exmaple, the AP38), nor have I found much about the Kaysound that I see online which also claims to be hammer action, though has a low polyphony count and is probably not worth anything.

Thanks!!!

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as I understand your post, you are looking for a digital piano.

as a beginner piano player, I think most digital pianos with weighted 88 keys are the same so it comes down to personal choice and pocket book (money).

You mention Costco and Costco stands behind the products they sell. I have seen Casios there.

I am old and have been buying Yamaha for over 20 to 25 years be it sub woofer, CD players, saxaphones, motorcycles, so I have a huge bias. I have a P95 and a CLP-50 and they seen fine to me.

You have a lifetime to get another acoustic so getting a digital with 88 weighted keys seems practical for the time being. If you have had the taste of an acoustic - the taste won't go away easily - but I play both my digitals and my acoustic daily and can adjust to them both being totally different instruments

3G31CCD


Edited by Michael_99 (08/31/13 04:41 AM)

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#2144287 - 09/04/13 09:46 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
RK Offline
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Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 10
Thanks all! My PX-850 arrived today!

The FexEx guy was very happy that I was home to help him carry it into the house. As was I, I'd hate to think what he'd have done trying to carry it alone! Heavy! He helped me carry it into the family room and I started in on it.

It took me about 35 minutes from open box to fully assembled and playing! It looks nice; not as nice as a polished ebony finish on a high end piano, but nice none-the-less.

Initial impressions are very positive. It feels good and sounds great! A bit harsh on the attack on the left hand (probably lighter than my old piano), but I've already noticed that I'm adapting to that, for better or worse. I might play with the hammer response settings to see if I find something more natural for me.

Hooked it up to my iPad... worked immediately (99 cent trail version of Home Concert Extreme & the Piano Tutor app). Hooked it up to my laptop and tried it with PianoBooster and it worked perfectly. I'll probably buy HCX if I can find enough high quality MIDI files to justify the cost.

Songs are coming back to me slowly... can't wait to play it more!


Edited by RK (09/04/13 09:47 PM)
Edit Reason: typo
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#2144309 - 09/04/13 10:32 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 623
Nothing like watching someone embark on a fresh piano journey smile.
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#2144310 - 09/04/13 10:35 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: RK]
Tritium Offline
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Registered: 06/19/13
Posts: 179
Loc: Western MA, USA
Originally Posted By: RK
Thanks all! My PX-850 arrived today!

The FexEx guy was very happy that I was home to help him carry it into the house. As was I, I'd hate to think what he'd have done trying to carry it alone! Heavy! He helped me carry it into the family room and I started in on it.

It took me about 35 minutes from open box to fully assembled and playing! It looks nice; not as nice as a polished ebony finish on a high end piano, but nice none-the-less.

Initial impressions are very positive. It feels good and sounds great! A bit harsh on the attack on the left hand (probably lighter than my old piano), but I've already noticed that I'm adapting to that, for better or worse. I might play with the hammer response settings to see if I find something more natural for me.

Hooked it up to my iPad... worked immediately (99 cent trail version of Home Concert Extreme & the Piano Tutor app). Hooked it up to my laptop and tried it with PianoBooster and it worked perfectly. I'll probably buy HCX if I can find enough high quality MIDI files to justify the cost.

Songs are coming back to me slowly... can't wait to play it more!


Congrats, RK.

And with regards to the "harsh on the attack" concern...you will want to adjust the "Touch Sensitivity" parameter to your liking. I think you will find this makes much more of a difference, for what you are describing, than the "Hammer Response" parameter.

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#2144349 - 09/04/13 11:48 PM Re: Lost my acoustic, probably need digital [Re: Tritium]
RK Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 10
Originally Posted By: Tritium
And with regards to the "harsh on the attack" concern...you will want to adjust the "Touch Sensitivity" parameter to your liking. I think you will find this makes much more of a difference, for what you are describing, than the "Hammer Response" parameter.


Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.
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