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#677550 - 11/11/07 12:16 PM Headphone recommendations
Larraby Offline
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Hey:

I would appreciate some input on buying a pair of quality headphones for my digital piano ie. brands, specs to look for, etc.

Thanks!

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#677551 - 11/11/07 12:50 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Some often recommended brands here include Sony, Sennheiser, AKG, and Grado. Try doing a search of this site and you will also find many previous threads like this.

Knowing whether or not you want open or closed ear headphones makes a difference in price vs. sound quality. Closed-ear models block out some outside sounds and have less sound "leaking" out. That's an advantage for some people, but the prevailing wisdom suggests that engineering a closed headphone costs more than an equally good-sounding open one.

Comfort is also important. People's preferences vary widely on this issue, so if you can actually try them before buying [or return them without penalty for doing so], that would be preferable.

Sensitivity is sometimes an issue on really high-end headphones; you want to make sure the digital piano has enough "oomph" in its' headphone amplifier to drive the phones with enough volume to appreciate them. The 'ohm/sensitivity' spec is probably the only one worth paying attention to.

I have a pair of $69 Grado SR-60 which I just love, especially for the money. Others will certainly chime in with theirs.
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#677552 - 11/11/07 12:51 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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#677553 - 11/11/07 12:53 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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#677554 - 11/11/07 02:13 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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I bought one called EarTools, was around 100$, I must say they are very nice for quite a few apps.

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#677555 - 11/11/07 05:51 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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I use Audio-Technica ATH W5000 headphones when I play my Roland, available in the US through AudioCubes. I have a lot of pretty decent headphones, but these are in a whole 'nother league. The timbre of the piano is marvelous, and the growl of the bass quite thrilling.

Cheers,

Craig
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#677556 - 11/14/07 07:55 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Love my QuietComfort 3 Acoustic Noise Cancelling headphones . Very robust and multifunctional, (especially for travel). Pricey but in the long run well worth it.

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#677557 - 11/15/07 12:02 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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A good, full-sized, circumaural, closed headphone that's popular among budget audiophiles is the Sennheiser HD280 Pro which you can pick up for less than $100 at Amazon.

I use the Sennheiser HD580 which is a full-sized, circumaural, open headphone that's a step up in sound quality as well as in price compared to the HD280 Pro. Unfortunately, the HD580 isn't produced anymore, but you can still find them on ebay pretty regularly (I see a brand new pair on ebay selling for $170 plus shipping right now).

The replacement for the HD580 is the HD600 which sells for a little under $300 at places like Amazon. The drivers in the HD600 are the same drivers used in the HD580 although they're matched more closely in performance characteristics and therefore, they supposedly sound a bit better. Most people feel the HD580 is 95% as good as the HD600 and since it's a lot cheaper, it represents a better bang for the buck. But opinions vary. Some feel the HD600 is well worth the extra cost over the HD580.

For an excellent selection of different headphones accompanied by short reviews, check out Headroom here --> http://www.headphone.com. This is a great resource although you may find better prices at places like Amazon, Newegg, etc.

For endless discussions about headphones and headphone related accessories, check out the Head-Fi forums here --> http://www.head-fi.org

Hope this helps.

-krypt0

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#677558 - 11/17/07 02:55 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
Larraby Offline
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What about Sennheiser HD555? Any good?

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#677559 - 11/17/07 02:30 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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I've never had the opportunity to try the HD555, but everything I've read about them suggests they're very good for the price (only $99 at Amazon). If you don't mind the "open" design, I'm sure these would be nice - although not as nice as the HD580 or HD600.

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#677560 - 11/17/07 05:58 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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HD 555 seems to be very good:

http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/full-size/sennheiser-hd-555.php

HD 595 even better, close to the 600 and less expensive:

http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/full-size/sennheiser-hd-595.php

I have bought the HD 595 recently and use it now with my Yamaha CLP-240 : great deep (and right amount of) bass, very good soundstage and very clear and bright sound in general. In Belgium i payed 200€ ( HD 555 = 125€ ) DO NOT buy the HD 515: the HD 485 is much better. I have a 485 also: good headphone but a bit to much (and more "muddy") bass for classical music or for a DP like the 240 without equalizer, less bright and less soundstage but very good price: 70€.
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#677561 - 11/17/07 08:59 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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The HD555's are fantastic, I have them on right now listening to some music I recorded. They are "open" however -- they only block a little of the outside world noise, and they let a little bit of what you're hearing out. That hasn't been a problem for my use at all, however.

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#677562 - 11/18/07 07:44 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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#677563 - 11/20/07 01:07 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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If you are going to use Sennheisers, get the HD595 if you will be plugging it straght into your DP. The 580/600/650 'phones require a dedicated amp to work to capacity. The 595 is a fine, comfortable 'phone for practice, but be aware that your sound will be quite audible outside your head.

Cheers,

Craig
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#677564 - 11/20/07 09:01 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
Larraby Offline
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I'm wondering if there is a huge difference between the 555 and 595 or is it so subtle that only an audiophile could hear it. I believe Amazon.com has the 555 for $99 and 595 for $182.

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#677565 - 11/20/07 11:52 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
ctnski Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Larraby:
I'm wondering if there is a huge difference between the 555 and 595 or is it so subtle that only an audiophile could hear it. I believe Amazon.com has the 555 for $99 and 595 for $182. [/b]
Perhaps not, even among audiophiles. Check out the comments at headphonereviews.org. The '555 has been reviewed seven times, with an average score of 6.6/10. The '595 has had eight reviews, with a score of 6.7. Keep in mind that the highest scores still average only 8+, so both of these would appear to great value headphones.

While on this topic of using 'phones while practicing on a DP, I just tried putting my old Headroom Supreme amp in between my headphone jack and my 'phones, and the difference is quite stunning, with or without the cross-feed. The whole noise floor drops below the threshold of audibility (mine, anyway), and the tone of the piano is so much richer. Don't know why it's only now I did this, guess it looks funny hanging a amp on the end of the keyboard, and I had always assumed that the power from the jack was sufficient without an amp. Pretty foolish of me. The sound now is great, and the Supreme has found a new perch.

Cheers,

Craig
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#677566 - 12/19/07 08:43 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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I received my Sennheiser HD-595 headphones yesterday and all I can say is ... \:D

Then again, anything is better than the cheap $20 Panasonic headphones that I was temporarily using (originally attached to my PC).

Thanks for all the feedback.

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#677567 - 02/22/08 05:35 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
eggtart Offline
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Registered: 02/20/08
Posts: 16
Loc: HK
Tried the AKG K240 today. Great sound and very comfortable. People are saying that the HD-280 is really tight, didn't have a chance to try it out.

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#677568 - 11/08/08 09:02 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Registered: 09/22/08
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I found the Senn HD-555 to be truly horrible. (I use a Yamaha CLP-240) I wouldn't say that they were the worst headphones I've ever used. But I think just about any $30 phone will sound better.

I was truly disgusted with the 555. I couldn't stand them. After about an hour of use, I returned them.

(Before writing this, I posted a message on this same subject on the "Headphones for Digital Piano" forum.)

BTW, I chose the 555 based on recomendations here, and on specs found at headphone.com. I was looking for open phones (for comfort).

At this point, I wonder if I should look at the Senn HD-280? These are closed phone. But headphone.com shows that they have a weaker bass response ... which might be good for a DP.

What say, Holmes?

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#677569 - 11/08/08 11:43 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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For in ear headphones I like my Shure SE210.

If you want over the ear earphones (these are the most comfortable) I recommend Bose or Sennheisers, these are WONDERFUL earphones. They give excellent quality sound with the greatest comfort, also most of them are sound isolating so you wont hear the background noise in a loud room.
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#677570 - 11/09/08 07:50 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Loc: Sweden
 Quote:
Originally posted by lhorwinkle:
I found the Senn HD-555 to be truly horrible. (I use a Yamaha CLP-240) I wouldn't say that they were the worst headphones I've ever used. But I think just about any $30 phone will sound better.

I was truly disgusted with the 555. I couldn't stand them. After about an hour of use, I returned them.

(Before writing this, I posted a message on this same subject on the "Headphones for Digital Piano" forum.)

BTW, I chose the 555 based on recomendations here, and on specs found at headphone.com. I was looking for open phones (for comfort).

At this point, I wonder if I should look at the Senn HD-280? These are closed phone. But headphone.com shows that they have a weaker bass response ... which might be good for a DP.

What say, Holmes? [/b]
Hi,

can you please tell me why those HD555 is that horrible? On a Swedish website the HD555 has been reviewed by 54 people, and they have been giving the headphones 8,82/10.

/Andrée

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#677571 - 11/09/08 10:54 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Registered: 01/28/07
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Loc: Montréal, QC, Canada
I have:
• AKG K701
• Sennheiser HD 600
• Grado SR325 (not the 325i)

The three are very acceptable for use with my Clavinova CLP-240. I prefer the AKG that is, to my ears, somewhat in between the Grado and the Sennheiser in term of tonal balance and details (and comfort).

They are all open headphones. What I would like is a good closed. Anyone knows what is (are) the best closed headphone(s) available?

JMG

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#677572 - 11/09/08 10:59 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Piano QC, have you seen these reviews? Headphone website

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#677573 - 11/09/08 09:50 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
Horwinkle Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Andrée: Can you please tell me why those HD555 is that horrible? On a Swedish website the HD555 has been reviewed by 54 people, and they have been giving the headphones 8,82/10.
[/b]
Rather than repeat my comment ... just look for my post on the "Headphones for Digital Piano" forum.

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#677574 - 11/09/08 10:15 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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 Quote:
Originally posted by PianoQC:
• AKG K701
• Sennheiser HD 600
• Grado SR325 (not the 325i)
I prefer the AKG that is, to my ears, somewhat in between the Grado and the Sennheiser ...
JMG [/b]
These are in the $300-400 range. I'm looking at $100. Any suggestions?

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#677575 - 11/10/08 03:40 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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I have the original AKG 240s. Pretty much industry standards in the studio. They did come out with a new version (MK II) that are louder. I haven't heard them yet though. Hopefully they have the same warmth has the original 240s.

I'd like to check out the Beyer 880s. A friend of mine whose "ears" I trust, gives these high marks.
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#677576 - 11/10/08 08:36 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Loc: Montréal, QC, Canada
 Quote:
Originally posted by guest1013:
Piano QC, have you seen these reviews? Headphone website [/b]
Thanks guest1013!

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#677577 - 11/10/08 08:42 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
PianoQC Offline
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Loc: Montréal, QC, Canada
 Quote:
Originally posted by lhorwinkle:
 Quote:
Originally posted by PianoQC:
• AKG K701
• Sennheiser HD 600
• Grado SR325 (not the 325i)
I prefer the AKG that is, to my ears, somewhat in between the Grado and the Sennheiser ...
JMG [/b]
These are in the $300-400 range. I'm looking at $100. Any suggestions? [/b]
Mmm... I like my Koss Porta Pro (not Sporta Pro) very much. I find the bass a little on the heavy side, but that’s all. See: http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-headphone-type/ear-pad-type/koss-porta-pro.php 50$ in the USA.

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#677578 - 11/14/08 03:59 PM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Registered: 09/22/08
Posts: 1011
 Quote:
Originally posted by PianoQC:
Mmm... I like my Koss Porta Pro (not Sporta Pro) very much.[/b]
What DP do you use these phones with?

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#677579 - 11/15/08 09:35 AM Re: Headphone recommendations
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Loc: Montréal, QC, Canada
Clavinova CLP-240. I don’t use them anymore (I prefer the AKG 701) so I tried them before posting. I would say the bass is more than "a little on the the heavy side". It’s heavy, period. Not sure I would return to the Koss now that I use the AKG.

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