Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
Latest Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#678892 - 12/19/07 10:12 PM ES-4 vs. MP5
woodstock Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 3
Loc: corpus christi
This is my first post so please bear with me if I make any mistakes or if this question has already been answered. I've recently taken up the piano and am looking to purchase a digital piano to practice on. My budget is around $1200. I've spent the past month testing various brands and have come to like a Kawai ES-4. Here where I live, it's $995. I basically have two questions: Is this a good price for the ES-4? and Is the MP5 that much better? The closest MP5 for me to test is 5 hours away, and I don't have time to drive that far to test a piano. It's only $100 more and I just wanted to know if it was that much better. I'd appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks.

Top
(ads) Sweetwater / PR /Roland
Your Next Keyboard is at Sweetwater

Pearl River World's Best Selling Piano

Click Here


#678893 - 12/19/07 10:54 PM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
Kawai James Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8851
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
The MP5 is a more advanced product, typically aimed at performing stage musicians. There are a range of features that - with all due respect - piano novices are unlikely to fully exploit, such as independent zone balances/EQ-ing.

Is the MP5 a better product than the ES4? Well, technically speaking, yes, however for straight-forward simplicity - a digital piano that you can simply switch on, and sit down to play, the ES4 is arguably the more suitable instrument.

Having said all of that, you may live to regret not paying the extra $100...

...gosh that's a difficult choice!

Good luck!
James
x
_________________________
Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

Top
#678894 - 12/20/07 05:03 AM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
dannac Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 595
Loc: USA
I do not think the MP5 has internal speakers.
( please verify that )

Top
#678895 - 12/20/07 05:09 AM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
dannac Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 595
Loc: USA

Top
#678896 - 12/20/07 07:24 AM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
woodstock Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 3
Loc: corpus christi
No, it doesn't have speakers, that doesn't bother me. I'm more concerned with the key action on the mp5 in comparison with the es4, because there's not one for me to play around here.

Top
#678897 - 12/20/07 09:51 AM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
dannac Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/07
Posts: 595
Loc: USA
I tried 2 different Kawaii EP2's .....
loved the sound and feel but just could not handle the click/clack of some of the black keys.

Theres someone around here called "The Pro" who plays professionally (I believe) and uses the ES4 and has no problems with his keys.

May show up and give more advice on MP5/ES4.

Top
#678898 - 12/20/07 12:44 PM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
The Pro Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 200
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Hi. Yes, I play professionally fulltime and the Kawai ES4 is one of the pianos I use often. I've owned and used it since February 2006 with no problems whatsoever, and I am a fairly heavy-handed player. It is a fine instrument in every way, action/feel, sound, appearance, and it's in a comfortable weight range for frequent transport.

I was really looking for a DP with internal speakers when I bought it and I still like them... some of my gigs are intimate and it's nice to have that option. I use a stereo keyboard amp with it (either my Motion Sound KP-100s or the KP-200s) and that gives me a nice warm surround-sound effect when I play. You can also plug an iPod into the ES4 for practice or MP3 backing accompaniment. I think internal speakers increases the resale value of the piano also because more people would be interested in it than just the prosumers.

I haven't played an MP5 yet so I have no opinion about it. I could've gotten an MP4 instead of the ES4 if I wanted to go the better-controller/no-internal speakers route but the ES4 is simple and satisfying and it's all I need for stage.

This is a picture of my Kawai ES4 on it's Ultimate Support V-Stand with a Freehand Music Pad Pro.


Top
#678899 - 12/20/07 04:56 PM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
woodstock Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 3
Loc: corpus christi
Thanks you all for your help, I really appreciate it. I guess I'm going to have to find an MP5 to try out.

Top
#678900 - 12/20/07 07:49 PM Re: ES-4 vs. MP5
Kawai James Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8851
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
woodstock, the ES4 and MP5 utilise the 'Advanced Hammer Action 4' plastic key action, however the version found inside the MP5 is the newer, slightly improved AHA-IV 'E' type.

Depending on your playing style, you may / may not be able to feel the difference between the two instruments.

Kind regards,
James
x
_________________________
Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
LAST CALL - Piano Newsletter Ideas!
-------------------
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
142 registered (a-z0-9, accordeur, 36251, 47 invisible), 1695 Guests and 20 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
75495 Members
42 Forums
156109 Topics
2292457 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Yamaha P255
by pianist.ame
07/23/14 09:12 PM
Just Tried Brand New Mason and Hamlins....
by Paul678
07/23/14 09:10 PM
Broken Butt Plate - Replacement part?
by musicNow
07/23/14 08:24 PM
Liszt's letters to Jessie Laussot
by Michael Sayers
07/23/14 07:59 PM
Good popular and classical songs for a piano gig?
by Tony Romo
07/23/14 07:13 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission