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Nice links! ...and a very good question. I would love to see a GT3 enter the market with expanded sample storage, string resonance and key release samples. As far as I know, only a Disklavier adapted model appeared after the GT2, with the model name DGT2IIXG. It is identical when it comes to piano sound and keyboard action but with an in-built sequencer and some other bells and whistles, adding 30% to the already very high price. Bösendorfer nowadays offer a stage piano variant, CEUS. However, the price tag is out of range for the great majority of musicians. But interesting to see that they are now entering the digital piano market. Looks bright for the future.
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Yeah, I thought that you might like that link!
I'll check out the DGT2IIXG. So, Bosendorfer has a stage piano? Wow, I'll check that out....I'm sure at 45K its a steal?!?!?
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There was a thread about the Bosie stage piano on the main forum not long ago: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/16429.html It has a link with a photo of the Bosie portable. It is absolutely stunning looking.
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fogwall said: "As far as I know, only a Disklavier adapted model appeared after the GT2, with the model name DGT2IIXG. It is identical when it comes to piano sound and keyboard action but with an in-built sequencer and some other bells and whistles, adding 30% to the already very high price."
There was a further model after the DGT2IIXG, the DGT2A (and DGT7A). These are basically the Mark III version of the Disklavier Grantouch. It is still being made in Japan, but is now no longer available new in the EU due to RoHS (Reduction of Hazardous Substances)regulations, which came into effect last July.
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Originally posted by athomik: There was a further model after the DGT2IIXG, the DGT2A (and DGT7A). These are basically the Mark III version of the Disklavier Grantouch. It is still being made in Japan, but is now no longer available new in the EU due to RoHS (Reduction of Hazardous Substances)regulations, which came into effect last July. OK, interesting information. I should mention that the GT2 is actually still rather aggressively marketed here in Europe while it is apparently discontinued in the US and replaced there by the DGT2A.
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I suppose EU regulations are enforced more strictly in some countries than in others. In the UK, they are no longer imported (although I do believe that some dealers still have stock imported before July last year). The information here is that the GT/DGT range is classed as "electronic consumer goods", and the lead weights in the keys makes them illegal under RoHS regulations. Disklavier/Silent pianos are unaffected as they are essentially a musical instrument which can fullfill it's main function without the electronics.
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Originally posted by athomik: (...) and the lead weights in the keys makes them illegal under RoHS regulations. Sorry if I missed out something here but what makes lead weights hazardous..?
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Lead is classed as a hazardous substance under RoHS*, esp. when it gets into the environment after disposal of the product, and is banned in all electronic consumer goods put onto the EU market since July last year. This also applies to items such as the solder used, which means that all electronics manufacturers had to change to lead-free solder and adapt their procedures (lead-free solder requires significantly higher temperatures for soldering)
*this is from the directive: "“hazardous substance†means lead, mercury, cadmium, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyls or polybrominated diphenyl ethers in quantities exceeding the maximum concentration value levels set out below— 0.1% by weight in homogeneous materials for lead; 0.1% by weight in homogeneous materials for mercury; 0.1% by weight in homogeneous materials for hexavalent chromium; 0.1% by weight in homogeneous materials for polybrominated biphenyls: 0.1% by weight in homogeneous materials for polybrominated diphenyl ethers; and 0.01% by weight in homogeneous materials for cadmium" (not that I know what half the stuff is)
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i wish we have such environmental rules here in US! i heard also that in EU, even throwing away a battery in public is a crime or voilation.
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