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#685530 - 05/30/07 05:06 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Originally posted by OnTheWeb:
 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
I bought the FP4 for $1015 plus $50 shipping. The FP7 was going for $1220 plus $50 for shipping. [/b]
Where are you being quoted those prices? That's almost $350 less than I've seen on actual street price of an FP7. You must have an amazing dealer [/b]
Google search turns up $1300 at the lower end. Maybe that particular FP4 piano "fell of the truck" ;\) ...

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#685531 - 05/31/07 08:40 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Hi Hardway! So glad you are rocking with your new toy and got a great price! Thanks much for the price info, really appreciate.

Have a couple Guitar Centers and Willises here in the Dayton, Cincy area. They always go by Sweetwater.com for price comparison, the FP4 is $1,495.97 and 7 is $1,795.97 w/legs. None of the Guitar Centers have either but the Dayton Willis has the display 4 and offered it to me for $1,295., the same as the Yamaha P140. Think he would do better but I am interested in the 7 now.

I still haven't gotten to the Florence, KY Willis to see the 7 but hope to soon. Then I can do a little bargaining! Thanks for the extra leverage.

Had thought of going through the net but would rather get it locally so they can check it out and they offer 3 years warranty instead of standard 2. Always good to have from a local dealer in case something goes wrong!

Will definitely have to ask you for Rintincop’s secret for the Rhodes growl or was it earlier in the thread? His April 10th message was blocked.

Thanks again to all for being so helpful, totally appreciate since I am still a newbie and really don’t know how to compare one to the other.
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#685532 - 05/31/07 08:45 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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P.S. I too would like to know where Rintincop got such a good price. Was it a reconditioned, open-box model?
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#685533 - 05/31/07 08:59 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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By browsing online for good prices, you will usually only find the MAP (minimum advertised price). Call the guys at http://www.bpmmusic.com; it should be several hundred lower than advertised elsewhere, and close to what rintintop said (especially when considering that you get free shipping and no sales tax).

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#685534 - 05/31/07 10:28 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Scapstick:
By browsing online for good prices, you will usually only find the MAP (minimum advertised price). Call the guys at http://www.bpmmusic.com; it should be several hundred lower than advertised elsewhere, and close to what rintintop said (especially when considering that you get free shipping and no sales tax). [/b]
That link doesn't work for me.
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#685535 - 05/31/07 11:24 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Now it works!

BPMmusic.com

I'm very sceptical to the price policy though. Maybe this works in USA, doubt it would be good elsewere. Manufactures have very limited control over pricing in Sweden. It is regulated by law.


Best regards,

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#685536 - 06/01/07 03:49 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 03/16/07
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I got my FP-7 from the same place as rintincop's FP-4. Definitely not "off the back of the truck" and super friendly service to boot. \:\)

And have to say that I am not only loving my stand (Quiklok 550), but LOVING the FP-7. Played through headphones, external or internal speakers, it sounds great and feels shockingly close to an acoustic.

I wish I knew how ordering things worked for all of you outside the U.S., but definitely think Roland makes some great keyboards!

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#685537 - 06/11/07 12:10 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 06/11/07
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I am glad I came across this site and thread recently. One cold snowy evening around the end of January or first of February, I visited a local music store to look at their DPs. No one was available to help me, so I went down through the row of DPs, and turned every one on. Then I went through and played each piano. The one that sounded the most like the accoustic piano was this FP-7. I had not heard of it until that evening. A few nights ago, we stopped in again to play the FP-7 but they had just sold the last one. \:\(

While not a professional like many of you, I have played for many years until about 12 years ago - have not had access to a piano since then. Since we live in an apartment the DPs seems to be the best choice over a the heavier, larger acoustic piano. Until I heard the FP-7, I didn't enjoy the sound of the keyboard because the "piano" sound was not close to duplicating that of a piano. Now, when the money comes in, I will purchase a Roland FP-7 digital piano!

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#685538 - 06/12/07 01:53 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Welcome to the club, you have good ears.
Most folks have been brainwashed into thinking Yamaha is best. Others have admitadely fallen in love with Kawai. My opinion is that Roland FP4/FP7/RD-700SX is the least terrible of all the DPs and I have owned quite a few as you can see in my SOLD list below. I became very sick of those inferior models. And I am not in love with Roland FP4/FP7/RD-700SX and am ready to cast it aside the minute a better tool comes on the market.
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#685539 - 06/12/07 03:19 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Hey, Rintincop...

Question for you, since you know the RD-700SX and other models so well. I'm still having a problem that I mentioned somewhere here a month or so ago... a sort of scratchiness in otherwise clean piano tones. I have bypassed the mixer and even upgraded from KRK RP5 monitors to RP8, and it's still there. Yet, oddly, I can't hear it in the headphones (AKG 271-S), though they are "thinner" anyway. In desperation, I even swapped cables and confirmed that I'm not having ground-loop problems. The real kicker is that a sinewave sweep from the Mac through the same system sounds perfect... yet the Steinway sample in GarageBand and even Ivory do the same thing via the FireWire interface.

So there is no single piece of hardware that is obviously implicated, unless this is endemic to KRK (which I really doubt, or I would have heard about it on various forums... and besides, they sound spectacular with MP3 sources). Am I just being excessively picky, or does this sound familiar? It's like a crackling that accompanies some combinations of high and low notes, usually in the middle of a chord. In a way I'm glad the Mac voices do it too (so it's not my shiny new Roland), but I really do want to find and fix the problem. This occurs even at rather quiet gain levels, and with any combination of Roland, Mackie, and KRK level settings.

Thanks for any thoughts....
Steve
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#685540 - 06/12/07 03:38 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
... I am not in love with Roland FP4/FP7/RD-700SX and am ready to cast it aside the minute a better tool comes on the market. [/b]
Kawai MP5 ?



or

GEM rp-x ?




Peace

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#685541 - 06/12/07 03:28 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 07/11/06
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Loc: Toronto
 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
Welcome to the club, you have good ears.
Most folks have been brainwashed into thinking Yamaha is best. Others have admitadely fallen in love with Kawai. My opinion is that Roland FP4/FP7/RD-700SX is the least terrible of all the DPs and I have owned quite a few as you can see in my SOLD list below. I became very sick of those inferior models. And I am not in love with Roland FP4/FP7/RD-700SX and am ready to cast it aside the minute a better tool comes on the market.[/b]
Hey, rin, glad you like your fp4 (or think it's the 'least terrible'). But how about a little "live and let live?". If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, and happens to like a Yamaha model, they've been "brainwashed"?. Come on, man, lighten up a little. You're bigger than that, aren't you? I respect your right to your own opinion. Kindly show me (and others) the same respect in return.
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#685542 - 06/13/07 02:13 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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OK, let's just say they have been drinking the Kool Aid. \:\)
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#685543 - 06/13/07 02:28 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
OK, let's just say they have been drinking the Kool Aid. \:\) [/b]

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#685544 - 06/13/07 02:54 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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#685545 - 06/13/07 10:25 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
OK, let's just say they have been drinking the Kool Aid. \:\) [/b]
Oh, yeah!!!
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#685546 - 06/14/07 08:53 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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So, rintincop and MontanaJustice, just where DID you purchase your Rolands for such great prices?

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#685547 - 06/19/07 08:03 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 05/25/07
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Loc: Historic Lebanon, Ohio
Hi everybody!

Know it has been several days since anyone added anything but wanted to post that there is a FP-4 up for auction on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200121021697&ssPageName=ADMESS:US:1

Ends June 25th 8:02:02 PDT current bid: $399.99 I'm still holding out for a FP-7. Wish this was since it is practically in my backyard!

Best wishes to all! Linda
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#685548 - 06/19/07 08:29 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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The item description says "Brand New" but the pictures look like the keyboard's out of the box and used. ... And would they really sell it for $400, seeing as there is no reserve? Sounds a bit shady to me.

Thanks for the heads up though... still waiting to see where rintincop bought his for just about $1,000 (if he ever responds to the question.)

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#685549 - 06/19/07 09:20 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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 Quote:
Thanks for the heads up though... still waiting to see where rintincop bought his for just about $1,000 (if he ever responds to the question.)
I thought he said it came from BPMmusic Website

Someone just said they bought an fp7 there for a screaming deal in the price paid thread.
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#685550 - 06/19/07 06:33 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Loc: Historic Lebanon, Ohio
Hi again everyone!

First: emailed CargoLargoREX listing the FP-4 on eBay. Turned out to be a "Twilight Zone moment"! My hubby and I bought several things including a baby Dansforth anchor 32 years ago from them (called Rex's Salvage then) when we were still in college at Akron, U. So, they are a very reputable company. Tried to post their reply this AM but the site would not come up.

"It IS brand new, from a “lost shipment”. I took it out of the box for photos to assure those people who looked that it is whole and in one piece, and so that I could plug it in and be sure that it operated. We are connected to REX’s. We have a retail store and we have an eBay store. Most of the high dollar top names go on eBay these days but still plenty of good household stuff in the store. I am happy to hear that you still have your anchor…I love stories like these. Thanks again, Angie CargoLargoREX (aka REX’s eBay store)"

Really wish it had been a FP-7 since that is what I have my heart set on!

Second: Rintincop did NOT get his from BPMmusic because I emailed and they quoted free shipping but still slightly higher.

Originally posted by rintincop:
"I bought the FP4 for $1015 plus $50 shipping. The FP7 was going for $1220 plus $50 for shipping."
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#685551 - 06/19/07 06:34 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
molehill Offline
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Hi again everyone!

First: emailed CargoLargoREX listing the FP-4 on eBay. Turned out to be a "Twilight Zone moment"! My hubby and I bought several things including a baby Dansforth anchor 32 years ago from them (called Rex's Salvage then) when we were still in college at Akron, U. So, they are a very reputable company. Tried to post their reply this AM but the site would not come up.

"It IS brand new, from a “lost shipment”. I took it out of the box for photos to assure those people who looked that it is whole and in one piece, and so that I could plug it in and be sure that it operated. We are connected to REX’s. We have a retail store and we have an eBay store. Most of the high dollar top names go on eBay these days but still plenty of good household stuff in the store. I am happy to hear that you still have your anchor…I love stories like these. Thanks again, Angie CargoLargoREX (aka REX’s eBay store)"

Really wish it had been a FP-7 since that is what I have my heart set on!

Second: Rintincop did NOT get his from BPMmusic because I emailed and they quoted free shipping but still slightly higher.

Originally posted by rintincop:
"I bought the FP4 for $1015 plus $50 shipping. The FP7 was going for $1220 plus $50 for shipping."
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1918 Chickering Ampico 5'8" grand





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#685552 - 06/19/07 06:36 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
molehill Offline
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Sorry it posted twice, said that they were having flood problems and to re-enter!
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#685553 - 07/18/07 11:41 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 07/17/07
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Loc: Sydney Mines, N.S., Canada
I have two question about the FP 7 and FP 4.
1. Are the electric piano voices in the 7 and or 4 improved over the FP 5?
2. Does the FP 4 have the same number of organ voices as the FP 7?
Thanks
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#685554 - 07/18/07 10:45 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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The EP1 (Rhodes) in the FP4 and FP7 is quite an improvement over the old FP5 Rhodes. I had the FP2 which had the same EP as the FP5. The new Rhodes is supposedly from the Fantom sound set. The FP7 has 4 additional "tone wheel" organs. The Organ 1 (jazzy) in the FP4 is quite good though, better than what you find in the Yamahas. The church organs are just so so.
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#685555 - 07/18/07 10:56 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Here's two videos of a friend of mine playing his brand new Roland FP4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1NRgxjq8U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOipEW8zUDs

I describe the sound of the "Superior Grand", used in RD-700SX, FP7 and FP4, as a piano timber that is fundamentally dark in tone but at the same time has very noticeable bright resonant overtones.
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#685556 - 09/22/07 03:18 AM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Rintincop:

What store gave you a quote of $1225 for the
FP-7?

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#685557 - 01/22/08 02:09 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Loc: Boston
just ordered the fp-7.

i'll be using ivory samples on my macbook pro.

i was initially looking at yamahas and pretty closed-minded about it but i eventually decided that the fp-7 feels very much like a steinway.

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#685558 - 01/22/08 03:03 PM Re: Roland FP-4 & FP-7 Digital Pianos
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Loc: Colorado
Diesel, let us know how much you enjoy playing it! I'm still saving for a DP and liked the FP-7 when I had the opportunity to play it.

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