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#687690 - 07/25/02 11:43 AM Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
Jacob the Bastard Offline
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Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 8
I really don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't been able to find much information about digital pianos etc on the web, this is the first forum I've found. I can't find any non-dealer sites on the subject. And since I'm out the hills of West Virginia, I don't have any stores that I can go try digital piano out at (we just got our first digital clock).

Is there a big advantage to a digital piano over getting the keyboard (controller?) and sampler seperate? I've heard that the sound is better on a digital piano, and that there is a delay in sound when playing on a sampler. I would like to make music and I know that sampler has more flexibility, but I'm getting it more for my little brother to practice than for me. Is a digital piano better for someone who's just learning?

Has anyone here heard much about baldwin digital pianos? Thanks!

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#687691 - 07/25/02 12:12 PM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
brat Offline
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Registered: 06/06/02
Posts: 29
Loc: India
HI,
Even I was interested in getting a baldwin digital piano but was informed by the stores listed in the baldwin site that they have stopped making digital pianos. So getting spare parts and all would be difficult. I fyou are interested check out the GEM products. I have heard that General Music actually makes the digital pianos for Baldwin but they make them in their own name as well.
check out this site www.generalmusic.com

Hope this helps.
payal

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#687692 - 09/02/02 06:25 PM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
Jacob the Bastard Offline
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Registered: 07/25/02
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Thanks Brat, I'm glad I found that out before buying a baldwin!

Has anyone here had any experience with samplers? Before I buy a digital piano, I want to be sure that I wouldn't be better off getting a controller/sampler.

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#687693 - 09/03/02 09:54 AM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
SteveY Offline
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Registered: 11/06/01
Posts: 1820
Loc: NJ
I have a sampler. What do you want to know?
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#687694 - 09/13/02 09:36 AM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
Jacob the Bastard Offline
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Registered: 07/25/02
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Hi SteveY, thanks for responding. I've never really played either a sampler or digital piano, but this is what I've heard;

The sound on a sampler is inferior (I don't remember the reason why).
There is a slight pause between hitting a key and hearing the note (due the information having to travel through your computer/sampler).
You have to reload your samples everytime you start up.
And that for these reasons a sampler is more for composing than playing.

Are any of these things true? Have you seen any other disadvantages of a sampler? Would you recommend a digital piano over a sampler (practice is my main priority)? And why type of sampler do you use. Thanks a lot!

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#687695 - 09/14/02 04:58 PM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
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Loc: NJ
A digital piano is basically a "sample player". That is, it plays digital samples (or recordings) taken from an acoustic piano. A "sampler" is just a device that allows you to not only play samples, but also record them. There are also "sample players" that are often generically referred to as samplers because of the their ability to load 3rd party sample libraries. The delay that is mentioned above is inaudible. When triggering a sampler or sample player via MIDI, there is a 3ms delay per connection. I would venture to guess that the same delay exists in most digital pianos (although I can't prove it). Evidently someone has suggested that you consider purchasing a separate controller keyboard and a rack-mount sampler. This is indeed a great set-up, but probably not a good one for you since you admit that you're new to the technology. This is a high-end system designed for pros that want to load 3rd party libraries as well as "tweak" their sounds. If I understand your experience and desired use correctly, I'd recommend a digital piano.
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#687696 - 10/15/02 01:30 AM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
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Registered: 10/13/02
Posts: 101
Loc: Southern California
If you purchase a self-contained digital piano (keyboard, sounds, amp and speaker all in one) consider getting one that has MIDI in/out and an outlet jack to send your signal to an external amplifier. That way, after you become more advanced and your interests grow, you can add that external sampler or synth module and boost your power with a better amplifier.
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#687697 - 10/26/02 04:38 PM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
Jacob the Bastard Offline
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Registered: 07/25/02
Posts: 8
I decided that SteveY was right, what I really needed for now was a digital piano. After reading through previous threads I decided the best bet was the the Roland RD 700 with the SRX 02 expansion board. I was expecting to pay 4000 dollars, but the piano must have droped in price, because it now sells for 1800 dollars. I am paying just around 2000 dollars for the whole setup. I may add a sampler later, but for now I think I have all I need (once it gets here of course). Thanks for all the advice!

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#687698 - 10/27/02 12:35 AM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
SteveY Offline
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Registered: 11/06/01
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Loc: NJ
Congratulations. You have a great instrument.
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#687699 - 11/17/02 12:50 PM Re: Digital Piano or controller/sampler?
OlderGuy Offline
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Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 40
Loc: Ithaca, NY
Jacob, don't forget to factor in a good sound system as well. If you go with the RD700 (excellent instrument) you should not neglect what amplifier/speaker you choose. Just my 2c worth.
Peter

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